From time to time on this blog im going to also be doing something i have chosen to name Peebs Net Community Watch. It relates to doing a type of study of this community forum here http://peebs.net/Community/index.php which is a forum for ex exclusive brethren members and the general public ,to discuss matters of the exclusive brethren , matters of faith or non faith , and matters of life in general from the point of view of ex members of the exclusive brethren.
I used to be a member of this site myself and participated there in discussions and debates that took place from time to time on the forums ,which at that time were both public and member only forums. However this has now had to change due to court action by the exclusive brethren and quote :”The Private Forums have been closed pursuant to the terms of a confidential settlement agreement” .. See here http://peebs.net/Community/viewtopic.php?f=80&t=11367
As ive already stated i used to be a member of this site and was involved in participating in discussions and debates within different threads upon this forum .But after a while there came a time when i chose of my own accord to simply cease signing in to make use of my membership, and since that day to be honest i havent even tried to sign in again as i have decided being inside this group just isn’t me.
Let me try to further explain what i mean about this.In my opinion even being a member of this group to me seemed it was still rather an awful lot like still being a member of the exclusive brethren or a domineering religiously orientated/controlled church.Yes it was suggested/stated that the site was also created for the use of not only the faithful but also the unfaithful which naturally then included the right of atheists and agnostics etc to post and discuss and debate matters which they felt like discussing.
And yes this did happen quite often and yes i did even participate quite often also. But let me suggest to me there does seem to be one hell of a very big difference! between being advised the forum is for both faithful and unfaithful who should feel free to discuss matters they feel they would like to discuss .And HONESTLY getting the feeling its the case that others there on the forum have any honest respect for this right that was actually designed and developed in hope of covering the needs of both the faithful and the unfaithful.
So without further a due let me first state this before i say anymore, i personally have absolutely no doubt that the folks that designed and developed the site, were absolutely honest in their kind and generous thoughtful intentions, of providing a forum that could hopefully cater for all folks of ex exclusive brethren descent, whether they still now happened to be either the faithful or the unfaithful type.
But alas .I suggest it now seems to me that wherever and whenever religion and faith is involved in matters , it just can’t help itself from trying to seek someway to manipulate and censor and control matters. Indeed whether it be by way of use of general rules or regulation, or by way of very subtle application of shunning or dissociation/excommunication psychological warfare.It seems followers of faith just can’t resist trying to rule and gain some sort of upper hand.It seems they cannot even bear the thought there still could actually be a possibility their faith might be misguided and wrong.It seems, even that anyone could even dare question! these faiths, to these faithful folks it seems is rather like maybe declaring a personal hatred also exists, or some dislike that is being presented as a first warning shot across the bow of the good fine ship “faith”, before the final onset of an outright war with no intention of discussion .No to the faithful deep in such faithful thought, this could only ever be an out-and-out purposeful move designed to thoughtlessly destruct and destroy at will absolutely without any actual concern of any others at all.
And so after participating for a while as a member, i decided it was just best for my own personal health, and also as a way to help me refrain! from daring to use the rights given to me as a member being fully able to post, in effect disturbing some of the wonderful thoughtful faithful folks right to their faith bliss of not needing to face quite so many opposing views .Well it just seemed best idea left available that i simply choose to leave,because to me it soon became very obvious not a lot would likely change in any hurry.
I personally felt it much better idea for me, that if i ever decided i wanted to observe or even post, it would be best i do it as a guest observer/poster .Which i actually have done! and is an experience i fully intend on sharing with you later further on in this issue of my Peebs Net Community watch project.
But i first want to further explain some more about my personal reasons for removing myself as a member of this forum.It basically amounts to this many of these ex ebs there on that site will so publically say they do dislike and abhor the manipulative extremely bossy and tyrannical type tactics of the exclusive brethren. But during my time amongst these ex ebs i started wondering? just how much many of them really could honestly claim they were actually so very different to those exclusive brethren whom they now so publically opposed.And from this very observation i then started to form an opinion of mine which i now still happen to hold, that in actual fact the real problem with all these faith-based problems, is actually centred deep within the very disastrous epicentre of the age-old idea of faith itself .
I personally doubt this problem has ever really changed much since humans first started following all the many differing paths of faiths.I feel quite sure faith folks who once believed in a need for blood sacrifice of humans or animals ,would have still felt just as indignantly abused and downtrodden ,should any nasty thoughtless soul dare question or be seen to seem to oppose their genuine faith in such wonder and spiritual bliss . Ooh the persecution .Ooh what great suffering and sacrifice one must make! , in keeping up the “good work” and upholding ones right to believe. 🙂
Opposers = pipeline of filth 🙂 Pipeline of filth is actually an Exclusive Brethren type term used to explain how they would see something like the site Peebs Net …. Its a eb slang word cult speech way of kind of describing it as supposedly being all lies . .. So in effect unfaithful words coming from the thoughts of an atheist or agnostic, even to an Ex Exclusive Brethren member, could be said might also be seen as being lots like this pipeline of filth . 🙂
So you know …What im really trying to get at here and explain, is who then is actually involved in censoring who ? .. Sure i admit there was no court case, i as one of those damn pesky opposing, question asking , agnostic/atheists always discussing matters the faithful don’t really like, myself simply up and chose to leave the membership of my own free accord, just as many Ex Exclusive Brethren simply chose to leave the Exclusive Brethren themselves also….But still i did so because of having some of the very same type of feelings ! of experiencing the same type tactics of manipulation , shunning, a sense that many faithful there still possessed the very same type of overbearing faithful need to control and censor what was and wasnt allowable to be thought about and discussed . And im suggesting this nearly has about as much connection to EBism as it does to all faith in general .Even if EBism just so happens to go and amplify it all a little.The fact still remains the real problem is actually more so (connected) to religion and faith in general.
Not sure if ive managed to explain myself and my thoughts very well, we EBs sometimes didn’t manage to learn so well back at school. If anyone don’t understand, please just make a remark and/or ask a question.
I think next i will just start a whole new post again on the subject of Peebs Net Community Watch .This post is already hit well above 1264 word count.