The Christian apologists “think” they have an answer for everything .They could just about talk somebody into believing a cat was a skunk without too much trouble if the person listening was devoted on enough charisma of faith , and already convinced the apologist would likely know what they was talking about.They might pick out a smelly old Persian Tom cat with some stripes and say look at that bushy tail ! and smell how much it stinks !, can’t you just tell it’s a skunk ?. And nine times out of ten among loyal devoted faithful , nobody would bother questioning anyone too much ,they`d all just nod their heads ! and throw in the odd hallelujah ! now and again or a couple of praise be`s ! just to help fool other folks they was actually awake and not being asleep. It’s why not a lot ever changes much very fast in most faith circles anywhere. Which is then also why even abusive cults last for years like they do. These faithful species of humans all come from the land of nod .
Check out this video off youtube called : Must Christianity Change or Die? from the program Faith under Fire
Bishop John Shelby Spong tries to talk some sense into these two devoted charisma drunk fundies . Imagine in ancient times just how hard it must have also been trying to get many ancient devoted charisma drunk faithful to change their thinking about the matter stoning people to death , to wake up and realize they were not thinking right ! and that it could no longer even be considered moral or good to stone people to death . Naturally the best they could do was for somebody to try feeding them some bullshite story about Gods new plan ,not a whole lot unlike how Bruce Hales or other church leaders today are the ones who suggest need of change when it suits them .Or when they know they can no longer carry on the way they do and look moral . And they call it something like divine inspiration or new light just to try to put a good spin on it . Just like the ancient apologists also did.
And in the land of faithfully nodding , mostly they all swallow it hook line and sinker.With hardly even batting an eye lid .
Notice the sly bait-switch that is made starting at about 2.37 on this video, by this Dr Albert Mohler.
Dr Albert Mohler says What i say first and foremost is this raises the question of whether we can trust that God is merciful and gracious and just and righteous,and the bottom line of all of this is that we are in no position to judge the character of God.He is the one instead who will judge us.And so when i look at those passages i have no problem with understanding it is not my job,it is not my responsibility,certainly not my place to judge God.It is God who will judge me.
Ok first Dr Albert Mohler suggests we are in no position to judge the character of God . Yet almost the very next breath he points toward a book men wrote and named the holy bible and so in actual honest effect trys suggesting maybe man was in a position to judge the character of God ?.
You cannot have it both ways ! . Cant say man cant judge character , then next moment try saying maybe he can by pointing towards whats written in the bible.
So its the old ….Bait and switch trick.
Apologist throw this type of double-speak bullshite around all the time .When it suits they will try to say man cannot know the character of God .Then again when they hope the devoted charisma drunk noddies are not thinking to deeply about matters they will go on about the holy bible as if in fact man could indeed know the character of God.
Aint it a real hoot ? 🙂 … Pity they didn’t invent skateboards years ago maybe faithful of ancient times could have better amused themselves with skating on skateboards like that hard case Catholic priest in my last post . Rather than dreaming up all their bullshite ideas of what Gods might be like.
Notice John Shelby Spong try his best to point out that Dr Albert Mohler has simply turned what men have written down in the holy bible ,into being known as word of God. In effect going back on his own words of what he just suggested ! , that supposedly man cannot know the character of God.
This is the blind devoted charisma drunk apologist thinking that has left our world in such a great mess . This is why our families in the Exclusive Brethren and Renton Brethren etc waste away our lives on this earth following such utter stupid bullshite . It’s why fathers and mothers have become separated from their children .It’s why some husbands or wives have died after many many long sad years of suffering , having never ever got to see their loved ones ever again , before they passed away from this world.
And yet its people like captain JOHN S. COLMAN who commented on my blog a few posts back with the fire and brimstone type threats , who for some reason think maybe it is me the agnostic/atheist who`s atleast not interested in being involved in any guess-work , who should have need to be afraid ?. Crikey like i already said , i would be far more fearful if i was one of these devotion charisma drunk theists who have been involved in promotion of guess-work about characters of God which it’s really obvious we had no good way of knowing about.
Bait and Switch is just using ancient deceitful methods .
Check out the facial expression on Dr Albert Mohlers face about the 3.10 mark , which you can find by putting your computer cursor (mouse pointer) on the round dot that moves along the red line at the bottom of the video . (you will see numbers appear that let you know what part of the video is playing)
To me Dr Albert Mohlers facial expression gives that look like a child that says …. Say what ever you like Shelby Sponge but im not listening to anything you say …im just faithfully nodding and its going straight in one ear and straight out the other side too.
This is the exact faithful noddy blindness that also keeps all our families enchained in cults .
Folks try blaming our families in these cults for where they have become firmly rooted …. But look at the noddy styles of these other faithful noddy types …. Where do folks think our family’s all inherited it from ? .
When Bruce Hales employs publicity companies to try making the Exclusive Brethren look good , its little different to these faithful folk like the Dr Albert Mohlers of the world putting up smoke screens and trying to do the old bait and switch method … Where else did folks think they learned this deceitful practice from ? . Did they think some weird and whacky stalk bird delivered it to them specially ? like the old baby delivery myth .
What a terrible most nasty cancerous disease it is .
What about the name of the TV program it come off … called Faith under Fire … L.o.L .. Nothing like adding a bit of the suggestions of persecution for helping the devoted feel more wonderful about themselves and all the charisma they are blind drunk on swallowing . Kinda makes you realize where the Jim Jones and David Koresh cult learned their meme`s from too huh 🙂
When will these people wake up and realize their covers been blown away by time and more knowledge . And realize how silly they look and sound .
Meanwhile many people must suffer and pay for the rights of people to live in such blindness . Jesus supposedly had a bad weekend on the cross until he was resurrected a few days later , so the story goes.
But it is no story at all ! that many people do indeed pay with their whole lives for peoples rights to believe these ancient beliefs .
Meaning its a utter complete lie that all was paid for on the cross , whether there is any truth to the Jesus story or not .