Weird Human Ideology

Humanity

Humans ideology seems kind of weird to me some times . Sometimes i need to slap myself just to try to make sure life isn’t some sort of weird n wacky illusion . When i see people do, or hear people say certain things, sometimes im left quietly thinking and asking myself , wow i must be really weird and crazy ! i better shut my mouth before to many folks find out. When wandering on my own , i often ponder these things that for some reason seem alien to me and my thinking , and i wonder if maybe an alien space ship snuck me into the hospital and swapped me over or something, and my parents just didn’t notice . Hmmmm it`s possible ?.    

This isn’t a good feeling for me, i live in a world where weird people often become outcasts . It becomes more of a worry when my friend Feeno from the U.S.A starts talking about our friendship being weird , im think hmmm … whats the rub with that ? . Maybe the mans right. .. I’m one weird cookie … I’m alien !    

Whats wrong with me . Why dont i seem to fit in with the way most other people seem to think ? .    

Take this article for instance from the Bay of Plenty Times : http://www.bayofplentytimes.co.nz/local/news/wording-means-exclusive-maori-burial-site-request-/3920281/    

Titled : Wording means exclusive Maori burial site request sidelined     

Here i was thinking the Māori were those who had to fight against racism and separatism , yet here it seems they fight to have it included and made law by city councils ? .    

Tauranga City Council yesterday passed a new policy to allow exclusive burial areas for religious or cultural groups whose “physical burial protocols” could not be accommodated in the general management of the cemetery. 

The wording meant that a request from the city’s Tangata Whenua Collective for a separate burial area for Maori could not be accommodated at Pyes Pa Cemetery.
 
 

However Tauranga Mayor Stuart Crosby did not shut the door entirely on the request , promising instead to “re-engage with the collective” to work through the issues.  

The new policy was aimed principally at Muslims and followed a dilemma last year when a Muslim boy died but could not be buried in the cemetery because of Muslim burial protocols.   

Muslim graves face a different direction to those at Pyes Pa and are wider than standard plots. Mr Crosby’s intervention meant the family was allowed to bury their son away from the existing non-denominational graves.  

The decision forced a review of burial practices at the cemetery, leading to Maori joining the Exclusive Brethren in seeking a separate burial area   

Either im weird or this planets rather weird . The Māori had to fight against racism in New Zealand , not so much unlike the indigenous people of the U.S.A or South Africa or Australia and elsewhere did too . And i happen to agree with them racism and separatism sucks , its bullshite . Having that type shit where only certain people are allowed in certain bars and clubs , based on their race or colour . Or army’s where only certain folk can be involved in certain companies or sports teams that only include certain races in their teams, or employers who only employ certain races .    

To my weird Alien thinking . That is so old school and outdated .    

Yet here we see even in death , modern countries pandering and bowing down to allow group racism , separatism , segregation to be promoted and flourish . Its one thing to claim the mind of the individual is hard to alter . But i don’t see how it simply follows ! that the segregation desires of groups must need be catered for.     

But them like i already said . I guess im weird . I’m Alien here on this planet. I don’t understand how Māori who traditionally have always been pro family , which i loudly applaud ! and admire ! and even maybe kind of revere ! with them as something most sacred .    

Can now be seen in line with a group like the Exclusive Brethren who have traditionally divided and slaughtered many families , and be working with them other divisive group to help secure the right of segregation of people even after death ?.    

Under the policy passed yesterday, they would have to prove their plot requirements could not be accommodated in the general area.
  
   

The Tangata Whenua Collective wanted an exclusive area for Maori because some Maori chose to be buried in a public cemetery or were unable to return home to be buried.    

 

Tauranga City Council policy analyst Debra Langton said the burial protocols for Maori did not meet the special requirements defined in the policy for an exclusive burial area.
  
   

She said they did not want to go down the path of allowing exclusive burial areas for any group that requested it. 
  

What ? they dont want to go down the road of allowing the exclusive ?? …. Really ? … Bit late me thinks . They already allow it .. Segregation and exclusivism is rife ! . Propped up and even sanctioned ! by the very presence of faith and religion in our societies . And it really sucks   

    

I think my friend Feeno often think im weird . He must do because he asks me these questions that sometimes seem a little strange to me . But then like i already said , in this world i already feel kinda alien . But in the last thread Feen asked me.    

But after our long weird friendship I still wonder where you think the line should be drawn when it comes to peoples rights about what they can believe? Our beliefs might be outdated and might even seem silly to you and even tho I’d like to see you become a Believer I would never think of outlawing Atheism.    

Personally as an alien living on this weird planet earth im against racism , segregation , exclusivism , etc  . But if i oppose it , all of a sudden i become thought of one of these weird people who are into outlawing things . I scratch my head and think wow … what am i missing here ? and slap my face again just to be extra sure this isn’t all some big illusion . That`s funny , yes! that slap was painful .   But if outlawing things is so evil ? im left not understanding just how come ?  it came to be against the law to not to allow people their right to have faiths ? . How did they outlaw murder ? or stealing ? or rape ?. How is speeding above speed limits outlawed as wrong ? or driving drunk become outlawed ?. Or some countries gay marriage or abortion is outlawed ? .    

Is it only the atheist are the real evil nasty baddies if they try to outlaw some stuff ? .    

Bad atheists . Naughty naughty bad bad evil atheists . How dare they think of outlawing anything …. Outlawing things is only the Job of normal people like Christians and Muslims and suchlike .    

Oh no . Down with you ,you naughty bad satan atheists . Tut Tut !    

I’m alien to this planet . I wasnt meant to live here . I don’t fit with a life where it’s quite legal for people of faith to make my life hell . And im far to weird and upset ! them lovely faithful folk when i don’t simply learn how to enjoy living a life of hell on earth .    

I understand why other Ex Ebs who felt so alien on this planet , they simply gave up trying to explain to other people who were only ever likely to think of them as weird anyway . And so they took care of matters themself , best way they knew how . And commited suicide .    

Just saying i understand them ! thats all . Even if normal planet earth people like Feeno dont.

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About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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5 Responses to Weird Human Ideology

  1. feeno says:

    Great thoughts. actually you might be weird but that’s not necessarily a bad thing. What the hell is normal anyway? Initially when I said “weird friendship” I just meant how we see things totally opposite, yet I always look forward to hearing from you. And someone who wants justice and fairness and kindness to matter shouldn’t be considered weird. Unless you can pull your eyeballs down below your friggan’ nose.

    Anyways I have many faults but I also have a few good friends. Thank God they can see through my weirdness to still care about me, warts and all. And besides our friends are our friends, in spite of ourselves.

    I don’t know if I told you but I did Google “exclusive brethren” . Yeah, they sound a little freakish. People wrote some things about them in the comment section. One guy sounded a lot like you. (?) could it have been?

    Well, it Wed. night. Off to teach my 6th-8th graders. Tonight we are talking about different types of”afterlifes”.

    Later, feeno

  2. ExEB says:

    Well Feeno the feelings mutual with regards to personally seeing you as a friend , even though we see things mighty differntly. And thats the truth.Im not really the type to lie that often . Infact often life might have been a little easier if maybe i was that type.

    I dont know what article it was you are talking about about the EB ,with comments.Could have been me , did the comment sound weird ? .. L.o.L 🙂

    Could have been me Feen . Im not sure

    Heaps of people do comment on them EB though , and not just Ex EBs either , even other christians and such like. Calling them the “UN-Christian” people etc blah blah …reading out all their favourite scriptures trying to sound like some modern day John-the -Baptist or freaking apostle Pauls or whatever ..L.o.L ….you know the typical “devoted” on all the “charisma” type of faithful folk …still dreaming of miracles ! happening ..L.o.L … Just wish less dreaming happened and some of them stopped waffling about other folk not being “real” Christian blah blah .. And instead got down to real business and get their own freaking shit together ! quit with all the continual bullshit and lame biblical words that obviously really gets us no where. Words that show that it seems thats about all ! these other so called “real Christians” are honestly good for . Because thats about all they ever offer ! they dont ever take it further into some “real action “. .. Damn and yet … They try telling me ?? that “supposedly” even Jesus was said ! to have taken some real action and turned over the tables of the money changers … Does that sound like Jesus sat there ! for ever spouting ! out bible verses for ever and a freaking day to you Feen ? .

    No i dont think so ! . … So whence come the pitiful never ending meme claims “real Christian” from all these other so called “real” Christians , with all their heads jammed right up their own arse, while keeping on claiming they supposedly are the “real” Christian ?.

    Maybe Jesus was just like them so called “real christians” full of words and bullshite.

    Maybe thats what makes them be “real christians” …L.o.L

    Its a utter joke Feen . Well not really …..Not really at all … Because from time to time some people do still commit suicide because all these other so called “real Christians” take no “real” action . The only joke is how deluded so very many Christian obviously are , to think maybe they are honestly any more “real” Christian in any honest sense of the word … Than the Exclusive or Renton Brethren or for that matter even the West Bro Baptist in the U.S.A . ….. Or any other abusive faith around the world that still freely gets away with blue murder , simply because so many other so called “real” Christian got nothing more ! than utter worthless scripture meme words to offer .

    And hey i know …. i know faithful folk dont really want to be hearing this . ….I know it ruins their peaceful blissful faith pattern they become so very used to… They rather want atheists like me to also be interested in stroking their backs like stroking the back of wee fluffy pussy cats …like they all ! so very used to doing for each other .

    But i aint about to play their ball game Feen …. And i dont give a damn who thinks im weird ,to be quite honest Feen . … By the way do you like real honesty Feeno ? …Do you prefer real honesty even if real honesty hurts sometimes ?… or would you far prefer i was just another arse licker … in a long line ! of arse lickers in this world … People who also when the chips are really down ….they gonna leave you to the dogs ! … while they go and arse lick someone elses arse elsewhere for awhile .

    I got two brothers just exactly like that ! Feen ….Arse lickers who would rather leave you for dead and run off and arse lick other christians arse than care about their own flesh and blood… Thats all the good lord bothered to give me Feen … If he actually even exists .

    I will never be arse licker . For if i was agreeable to being a arse licker , the Ebs would have even agreed to help me …If i was a arse licker some other churchy folk might even help me too .

    But i aint any arse licker Feen …. I see tables that have long needed some RIPPING OUT ! AND TURNING OVER ! . And i dont care if it means i need to suffer because i aint just another arse licker

    So be it !. Im tough enough … I grew up getting shit from lots of nasty people . My life has sometimes been all about being left alone to be devoured by the wolves of life . And often because i wont agree to arse lick along with the rest of them .

    Because somebody hard enough and even willing to pay for it, and be very honest !! needs to still be around , to hurry up and remind people there is still far to much ! Christian arse licking happening in this world . And a number of people are still suffering because of it … Remind people … A number of people are still being forced into commiting suicide because of all the arse licking that still happens among Christian circles that offer up little more than words .

    Sure if i was willing to run off and bow down and take care only of my own interests …life might have been easier for me . … But how would that help change the bigger picture here ?.

    I cant see how.

    We all have our faults dont we Feen , and you wont hear me condemning you for that.Thats why im not really interested in personally singling anyone out here .I dont see this as the EBs problem or the West Bro Baptist … Hey all of Christianity continually lets this freedom of faith freely do ! what it continues to do !. … Why then should i single anyone out ? . But by the jingos its long past time more Christian brought the problem of this disgusting nastiness to the awareness of all their congregations where they worship each and everyweek in such bliss while others around the world must suffer so some folks can dream of salvation and eternal life.

    And you say you go to discuss different types of after life tonight Feen .Well thats nice . And im really ok with it .Honest. Im happy for you all ! if thinking about after lifes is what tickles your fancy most. Thats cool

    But while you all do that, i want to ask ,do you folks in your church , ever much spare a moment or two to think about all the folks STUCK in the abuse of abusive faiths ? . Sanctioned by the very presence of these laws of “faith freedoms” that also allow all you other “real christian” folks you rights to dream of afterlifes.. Many folks stuck in this abuse, of whom dont even have much joy ! to remember even in this life ! here on this earth ? .

    Some folks i know have such bad lives because of this Christianity that dreams so much about its wonderful afterlife …. That it seems they just cant wait long enough to try and get there and so decide on their own to hurry things up a little ! by choosing to commit suicide .Because lifes so tough and harsh and nasty …they just cant wait a moment longer.

    I know how that feeling feels Feen . I myself been down there with that very same feeling many many times.

    Maybe you might not enjoy much that i say here Feen ..But one thing about me i can promise you is i aint ever been much of the arse licking type .And unlike my two brothers .. When the chips are down … I wont be likely to simply run away and crawl up the arse of somebody else … Just to try and save my own skin .

    Any way . Cheers once again ! for putting up with my weirdness . And most of all thanks heaps for being such a good friend .

  3. ExEB says:

    Dang it . This blog has been playing up lately. Giving me all sorts of trouble . Coming out bold print where it wasnt planned . Swapping words and spelling around.

    Cant work it out .

  4. ExEB says:

    Hi Bet365 .

    Thanks for the comment.Although couldnt understand how you found me through yahoo.

    But anyway glad you like the theme , i like it too , its called 2010 and its a wordpress theme .Think this may be helpful for you . Hope so .

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