There is an old saying : “T is one and the same Nature that rolls on her course, and whoever has sufficiently considered the present state of things might certainly conclude as to both the future and the past”
by : Michel Eyquemseigneur de Montaigne (1533-1592)
Superstitious humans have been guessing all manner of faith beliefs deities Gods and existences of angels and demons etc almost since time began.
Tristan over on the blog Advocatus Atheist has compiled some real excellent information he found called graveyard of Gods http://advocatusatheist.blogspot.com/p/gods-i-dont-believe-in.html
It shows how the extremely vivid superstitious nature of imagination of humans specially in ancient time was flat out imagining and guessing all manner of faiths and deities with Gods along with all manner of modes supposedly needed to comply with worshiping each and every single faith they dreamed might be in actual existence.
These ancient early cave men type now living in many communities across planet earth strove to learn and better understand about the world around them ,just as they also strove to try learn and better understand what might help account for their very own existence , and what might control certain phenomena they all also experienced from time to time , things such as earthquakes ,tsunami and lightning bolts that to them seemed to have almost been like it was purposely cast down from the heaven to kill or maim humans , as if it had been done deliberately by some will of mind and act of unseen hand .
And so it was without any other ways to better understand this natural phenomena of things such as earthquakes,tsunami or lightning bolts and weather patterns that helped control the possibilities that their crops could either provide feast or famine. That it seems it was almost unavoidable that these ancient humans must also evolve with faiths that then begat all these many ideas of faiths and superstitious beliefs .
Without the availibility of modern knowledge, it was bound to happen this way it did , just like 1+1 is bound to end up = 2
Long before the onset of modern science these cave men of faith begat what we modern human now know now to be pseudoscience .Pseudoscience is a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but which does not adhere to a valid scientific methodology, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status …… See here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience
Faith is pseudoscience . The killing of people accused of being the witches and sorcerers , was sadly also about use of this pseudoscience, that what was invented by these people of faith .
The excommunication of family members by Taylor,Symington, Bruce Hales and co etc from the Exclusive Brethren, is also but an extension and continuation of this psesudoscience ,this despicable thoughtless ignorance first invented by ancient people of faith ,which is now being carried on like an ancient cancerous curse that it always has been , by the modern leaders of many faiths which now also includes Bruce Hales of the EB.
There is always going to be a consequence for use of such ignorance , and the consequence for the cancerous existence of this ignorance of faith is that one day the Exclusive Brethren cult would evolve in such a way it has, and then people would be excommunicated ,suffer and some would even commit suicide and die in great sadness like they have …just as sure as 1 + 1 will be likely to = 2 …… This is the great endless penalty ! that humanity must need pay when ignorant faithful continue to promote use of such pseudoscience in the form of faith beliefs . And it don’t matter how many excommunicated faithful continue to bleat and pray for the deliverance of their loved ones trapped within this cult , or how often they continually read them favourite scriptures from the bible along with the threats of damnation from some obviously non existent God, who sure enough! is never ever even seen to bother come fix anything himself ……. It wont change anything much and folks will continue to reproduce history over and over again just as the quote from Michel Eyquemseigneur de Montaigne explains ….. Because there is a price humans must pay for continued use and promotion of pseudoscience , and this particualr form of pseudoscience is faith belief .
The faithful might try claiming atheists use pseudoscience by claiming proof Gods dont exist .But thats where the faithful are very incorrect .One does not need to use any form of pseudoscience to prove the non existence of Gods that are never seen or cannot be tested as effects being experienced .Science proves the non existence of Gods ,it is pseudoscience that continues to make the claim that Gods do exist, without ever being able to provide any scientific evidence for their actual existence.
Im also an atheist with regards to disbelief of tooth fairy’s,goblins,trolls,pink unicorns,celestial tea pots circling mars too …. I cant totally scientifically prove the non existence of all of these things ,can you ? ……Are you a tooth fairy believer too mr/mrs faithful? ….Do you have faith in pink unicorns ? and celestial tea pots circling mars ? ….. Can you totally prove the non-existence of these things ? …. If not are you guilty of using pseudoscience if you are not agreeing to be faithful to the existence of such things ? .
No of course not . Faithful folks who try to use this type of tit for tat type return argument, are just being silly, childish and ignorant and awkward .Its a strawman type argument some apologists use . It’s a argument designed by deceit of people of faith to try to continue on with the ability to pull the wool over people’s eye and mislead , and its little different to type of tactics that were once used by James Taylor, and is still being used by Bruce Hales and co and the PR firms they use today, while continually trying to lead folks continually on a goose chase.
Pseudoscience is a claim, belief, or practice which is presented as scientific, but which does not adhere to a valid scientific methodology, lacks supporting evidence or plausibility, cannot be reliably tested, or otherwise lacks scientific status.
And faith belief sure fits into that discription with great ease.
While atheism does not ,because there is plenty of supporting evidence that suggests no Gods at all seem to actually exist . Atleast not the type that scientific methodology is yet been able to provide any supporting evidence for ….. Meaning atheism is indeed not anything about pseudoscience
Faith has never been blessed with honesty , and so it is to be expected that Bruce Hales and co should have also inherited to deceitful nature of faith .And the price that must be paid for continued promotion of such nasty ignorance ,is some people must be born or converted into these type groups and then have some parts of their whole lives wasted by excommunication and separation from family etc.
This is the price some people must need pay for continued promotion of such lies and use of faith pseudoscience. And until humanity finally stamps out pseudoscience faith ,it will continue to ruin some people lives somewhere in this world as it quietly slowly morphs and evolves into all the many new sects and cults as it always has done in the past almost since time began .
Here is an article from The Huffington Post ,titled was Jesus wrong http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/jesus-was-wrong_b_772799.html
It explains : This is a review of The Human Faces of God–What Scripture Reveals When It Gets God Wrong by Thom Stark. It’s also a request to Christians: admit that the Bible is a mess and stop passing on its toxicity to us.
Well even as an agnostic atheist ex EB, i think i can fully agree with that type of thought , stck your f**king faith up your arse! , and dont be making me the one who needs to pay for your use of your “freedom of faith” rights to freaking involvement in taking part in continued promotion of these pseudoscience faith tests . What do you think i am ? … Do i really look like im some bloody two-legged guinea pig ?
And the worst part of all this is millions of DORMANT BRAINED faithful folk sit in churches each and every week warming pews ,while twiddling their fat little fingers and waiting for another glug on the wine and taste of another faith fortune cookie or slab of crumbly old bread in reverence of their great sky daddy, who’s never ever been heard from or seen since making all sorts of promises that never ever came to pass …….. JUST AS DID JAMES TAYLOR and as does BRUCE HALES continue to do also today.
Empty promises .Never ending faith memes ,and expectation of doomsday prophesys that never ever are seen to actually eventuate and come to pass. Like Jesus ,like James Taylor and Bruce ,like Jane Whaley of Spindale WOFF .
Prophets always “act” like prophets always did and always do.This is and always will be the price of faith.
You bloody folks of faith want to keep on continuing to promote such gullible utter ignorance … Then there will continue to be a price that’s also needed to be paid for it …. Just like the price that was paid for ignorant faith of killing those accused as witches , was the wasting of their lives on this earth …..Then today also the price for continued promotion of faith is continued excommunication and separation and pain and nastiness and even suicides within some families
Friends can be alive, yet still be totally dead and rotting in utter bullshit and continually drowning in such a childlike ignorance , if their “charismatic” “devotion” on matters of faith continues to shut down the use of their brain cells, throwing on a set of blinkers and making them that blind they cannot start to even understand just how utterly worthless their words of prayer and scripture readings will be in helping free THE MINDS of captives within a God faith filled with another bunch of “charismatically” “devoted” faith believers, just like themselves .
Science has proved human “devotion” on matters of “charisma” has the effect of shutting down the part of humans brain that is needed to help aid us in making some informed decisions , see here http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627574.200-brain-shuts-off-in-response-to-healers-prayer.html
Quote : WHEN we fall under the spell of a charismatic figure, areas of the brain responsible for scepticism and vigilance become less active
When we fall under the spell of a charismatic figure = the Quran = Mohammad = The Holy Bible =Jesus = Paul = James Taylor = Bruce Hales etc etc
Areas of the brain responsible for scepticism and vigilance will become less active .Meaning the chance for good use of braincells needed for scepticism and vigilance in the brain of the faithfully devoted Ex Eb, often actually has about as much chance of existing as has the faithfully devoted brain of the EB .
About nil . Nada . Zilch ….. No comprende el faithfully braindead gringo !
There is a price humanity must need to pay for the continued promotion of this use of pseudoscience which also includes the continued promotion of faiths.
And reading and reciting scripture wont be helpful in freeing the captives forever .If humanity wants to finally put an end to all the nasty effects of pseudoscience of faith ,then they will really need to stop promoting all forms of it.And will need to also start treating it with the utter contempt that it so rightly honestly deserves. Otherwise sooner or later these faith abuses will continue to happen when charismatic devotion of faith shuts down people brains making them become braindead zombies.