This is some words often considered to be great wisdom, among humans here on earth,and is even been recorded within holy books too. Within the Christian holy bible, its what being spoken about in Matthew 7:6
Extremely hive minded people, can sometimes even feel really “moved” by some of these little trinket-type very cliché -quotes.And use of such “woo” often tends to make many start to go all-gooey inside, to want to just freely fully accept it hook-line-and-sinker, as just being always just so wonderfully true.
But are they always of such great wisdom ?.
Sure, sometimes such quotes might even be somewhat wise. Like when for one-instance. we try talking sense to somebody who became so drunk with wine,that their thoughts have also become drunken and warped and lost within circular thoughts of a completely out of control drunken fool. Or in some very extreme situations ,where nothing new is ever been put forward for further discussion. And bias gets the best of discussion, and further discussion just goes around and around, getting nowhere . And thus we will also realize there is no room left for any further discussion either. In these very extreme situations ,further discussion can seem it’s totally pointless . Yet even in some of these very tough touchy uncomfortable situations ,we really do need to be very-careful ,even though we might truly feel we would just far prefer to simply stop even bothering to discuss matters further. We know how there is also sometimes a very fine line between us actually having enough wisdom ourselves to truly know when it’s for the best to stop with discussion. Verses us also letting ourselves down, by following along after biased opinions , and the very ancient long-promoted wisdom of many past bigots and great snobbery.
Because, sometimes its a very fine line we do tread ,between what is really good wisdom, and all the many forms of other biased bigoted snobbery that still continually exists all around us in life.. And we do know there is already plenty of evidence around to help prove that separation ,excommunication shunning and snobbery ,really doesn’t always help do that much to remove human failure, or go that far to help fix any real wrong beliefs either . How can things ever change for better,if we wont discuss it.
I have noticed, that seems like all sorts of religion often really helps to promote some strict-hive type mentalities, and specially when its within faith groups. Faith is often always needing to remain so very much-more concentrated on finding creative ways of continuing-their-faith ,that some faithful folks who often also don’t have any scientific evidence to help them back up that what they may believe . Will also tend to find it so-easy to prefer to just take-flight ,by running away from any continuing discussions taking place . And even old Jim Jones crew, also tried doing that .
They may even feel they have rightfully used this so-called “great wisdom” of not casting pearls before those who’s been classed/judged BY THEM as being the dogs and pigs of humanity. But faithful folk of many types , will all seem to feel quite contented with using this very same line of bigoted thought process of judging people, even among themselves. All shunning and excommunicating from continued discussion with each other, while each living in such continuing ugly contempt for others,who’s often mostly only of some differing beliefs is all.
It’s already hard enough holding onto some beliefs that we may have ,when they are also backed up by some real good evidence. But some faith beliefs will also become so very much harder for us to-cling-onto , when we also have the very strange feeling,that maybe its just got lots-more to do with always retaining our continued-faith , than ever being anything much about much else.
When i write a previous post ,and later on suddenly a link gets closed down. I also start to wonder why. And knowing faithful-folks as well as i do, i do wonder a little, if its something to do with some other comments been made here elsewhere on my blog. Maybe somehow it can later become a little better explained http://soulblindministry.com/ . This man already knows about people sharing beliefs . And hopefully he also already knows plenty about all the CULT-STYLE people also out there within this lost-world, who’s also busy warning everyone else against sharing any other people’s thoughts and beliefs too.
Seems to me like we sure do have more than enough “cults” formed already .
When i first went and joined up with the first original peebs net forum , the same one that the brethren would later on try closing down .It was not that long after what was known as the review had finished. And i was feeling extra sad about what i had just been forced to experience. Who wouldn’t have need to feel sad about experiencing this sort of sham ? unless they were in fact very unhuman ,and maybe even a little lacking in the areas of love and compassion. But anyway , at this time i was feeling sad and low,was still struggling to fully understand how i felt about idea of having and retaining any “faith” in God and things myself .
At first when i joined up i tried to maintain faith in God .And there were some ex eb, peeb net members who would act quite friendly ,with some of them even sending me some friendly emails or messages too.I could easy name around half a dozen or more christians that seemed friendly enough at that time. But as time went by,i soon found i felt i could no longer remain honest ,with saying i still saw such good reasons to maintain faith in God. And felt i had more than one reason .
I had been entering into some ongoing debates on peebs net,while arguing along on the christian “faithful” side of the fence. During which time the christian contact with others seemed to remain ok ,almost seemed to have this “love-bombing” effect to it sometimes as well, that almost seemed like some theists there might have thought like it sort of went along with the “shared-territory” ? or something ?? we should have-need to think we all held-onto together or something.
Thats how it was .Thats how it remained. Christian friends i thought i had ,right up until not so long after the time, i lost my own faith,and became an agnostic atheist. More or less at that stage the friendships ceased,and at times i began to feel like maybe i were likely secretly being thought/talked-about, as if being one of the most greatest scurges that ever lived upon planet earth,or something. Merely because i had some beliefs compared to some of those people who’s been classed as “the others” . I were then a non believer , verses being a believer. Thats about the full sum total,of all that had really even changed about me at all. Yet to me it sometimes almost felt like i had somehow suddenly gone from being thought of as being thought worthy of friendship and to be treated on common-grounds as at least being thought of as another human being ,to suddenly being thought of as almost if like i were now classed in with the most dirty rotten scum-dogs of the earth.
I’m not bothered with repeating the exact words used. But one personal message i had sent to me on peebs net, from another “christian” peeb net member, while i were still trying to remain a belever myself . Actually sounded a little something along this line of thought .
Ha haaa ,that feels “kinda great” to me too,that you getting to go taking my atheist-sibling (flesh and blood) down-a-bit like that here in this ongoing discussion on faith . I’m loving it . Because i cannot just go dish it out to her that same way you can.”
Later on i also found out from somebody,that evidently a cousin of mine on peebs net was quietly (in secret) telling at least another, maybe even some-other peeb net members that i was evidently some sort of “drug addict” or something.While i would even freely admit to a little social use of some rather regular type of drug that so many other people also use today , i wasnt a drug adict any more than a tobacco smoker is a drug adict. Even less,considring tobacco is well known to be far more adicive than some illegal drugs are. And more importantly, im no more of a drug addict that what my cousin could claim some of her own children were .
And i thought to myself, for all my years living completely void of any family friendship and support, at least i had still never been charged as a thief or for violence or anything like that ,why won’t? i even get a little kudos for that.. At first on hearing it,it made me feel quite angry inside at the time,but in the end i just mostly felt a real great sorrow and pity about it. But of course,it were also all those kind of very little subtle things, that had all quietly started to make me really re-think many matters over deeply again, about all the many Gods and things, people will all like to call part of their ongoing living-faith and religion . I studied how it made so many of them react.Even though i also know how they often only like to claim the good parts ,as being part of what they call “true” christianity and as anything compared to their own faith . And i saw how it really seemed that there were so often always also a type of real ongoing tyranny living right at the very crux of it all. The type of tyranny that always started by lots of love-bombing ,then later on also sealed the fate of such people, when leaders start using some kind of ancient tried and trusted, divide-and-rule type tactics. That humans learned to use long ago.
“The concept refers to a strategy that breaks up existing power structures and prevents smaller power groups from linking up.”
We still have many people all around us, who is all wanting to claim a slice of human society, to try and gain a wee-kingdom to rule over for themselves. And soon enough they may start to say something to this effect ,
” you are not really going to be good enough to continue to exist among us,until you also learn to agree to stay away “from them” over there. Dont even agree to need to discuss things with everyone you meet.We really don’t need to try and agree with everyone “
It’s all the us-verses-them, type of hive mentality. The idea that some how some “select” group of humans can live apart in some manner, finding themselves some sort of “utopia” type place on planet earth, to all become “better” than the other groups of humans are.
And funny enough, none will ever find it. It never lasts so long. It don’t matter at all, what particular “special” group of humans they try to form. Sooner or later, the shit will always be hitting the fan again somewhere,somehow, for sure. It’s a real easy-bet ! . Because humans will remain humans . Imperfect . Thats what we are
But yet whats even worse than all that is, because of it ,so many of us humans will often also continue to remain so extra stupidly intellectually dumb about it all as well too . Just to really go and top these very sad ugly matters off . A type of extreme human failure,stuck throughout all time while being held up within a certain form of continually nasty perpetual motion .
And we wont have even realized it .Yet ,that their silly minds should even dare to try and tell themselve they may be able to reach/obtain some sort of “higher” level of humanity . Should really almost be more than enough in itself , to act as a real huge alarm bell,and make them very wary.But seems it doesn’t. So how many times? over and over again ,do they really need to be seeing these very same type mistakes being made. Before they will learn ?
I don’t know . Maybe never ?? . But i truly hope not !!. The human race surely wont survive very long if they don’t learn, that’s one thing i already know for very sure. As an atheist im happy to socialise ,live and continue to discuss matters with them all.I want them all in my world,even if there is some with whom i may always tend to disagree. We can still all try and let the best evidence ,and the facts ,speak for themselves right ? . Yes, im very sure we may need to make some mistakes along the way as we go too . But then what group ? of human beings can even try claiming they havent made any.
Seems some of these folks don’t like feeling challenged with holding their faith/beliefs. They don’t like hearing nobodies “different” beliefs, that don’t run right along on parallel lines with their own set of beliefs. It’s so easy to see it happening all around us , cult /hive type mentalities,continually happening everywhere. Even on forum places like peebs net sometimes too. We see it when all of a sudden it suddenly goes kind of to a “deathly quiet” mode, specially when something “thought” to be “very taboo” gets discussed. And nobody make many comments for ages.
I’m left wondering, how honestly strong ? is all these people’s inner strength /faith or whatever within that they claim they evidently do have .If they still feel they need to have fear ? of even discussing and socializing with others ,for grave-fear that they’ll soon also need to start becoming the same way !.
Holy hell , i socialize and discuss things with “other-people” often, all the time .But there is still many things left that still remain unchanged , that i wont agree to do, that some others will.
If it wasnt such an extremely sad ugly wasteful and very dangerous mess this mess we have, for the whole of planet earth to all be living in . It might even be?, extremely funny
But sadly its very ugly, and kinda extremely sad also.