Christianity is a force that has profoundly shaped our civilization.

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George Carey, former archbishop of Canterbury says Christianity helped shaped equality. See here

But one wonders how equal life really is for everyone. When certain abusive Christian cult-groups can still exist today. Like the Exclusive Brethren do. Being issued with charity status and full freedoms. To continually go ahead with causing family division.

This isn’t about Christianity upholding equality. As its only the luck of the draw in life, that in effect decides who get’s born into a cult. And who doesn’t.

And it were Christianity that helped shape that inequality

Christianity has been behind what shaped homophobia. Christianity movement shaped sexism that stopped women from being ordained as priests.

How has this been helpful to equality ?

Christianity helped shape a death sentence for people whom they accused and  convicted of being involved in heresy or witchcraft .

So what type of “equality” was this then ? . That helped shape the loss of all those people lives on this earth.

George Carey talks about the Christian faith being the very foundations of our nation’s culture. Does this man forget that people already had many other beliefs that had existed long before Christianity even arrived on the scene. Christianity like an unbridled bully. Pushing and shoving people around

Before Christianity arrived. Nations of people within countries all over the globe. Already had their own lives and traditional beliefs. Being indigenous beliefs that included kinship and honor of their ancestry and ancestors. Often with a spiritual interest in nature too. And more

Traditional beliefs. That Christian/government-combined colonization,then sort to move in and destroy. In effect, splitting and dividing these family clans/tribes off into sub-groups. When they were coaxed into choosing over what christian domination they would choose to support. Just like what also happened with regard to John Darby-split and formation of the Plymouth Brethren groups.

Where is the equality ? in that George Carey. Where was the ? emphasis on empathy and selflessness

Many of these groups of people all had already included their own forms of responsibility, opposition to violence, concern for others and respect for their property. Even if Christian George Carey doesn’t realize it yet

Paganism existed in early Europe , long before Christianity had arrive. That’s how come many of the central concepts of modern Christianity also still has some of its pagan roots . See here

And

  • Origin: The diversity of Pagan traditions includes myths, histories, and lore from a wide variety of pre-Christian sources, including northern Europeans as well as those of ancient Mediterranean communities.” see here

Here is a list of “Nine Noble Virtues” as used by some Norse Pagans:

  • Courage – the ability to face both the joys and the challenges of life fearlessly;  
  • Truth – honesty and integrity in one’s words as well as one’s actions;
  • Honor – strength of character as reflected in one’s behavior and trustworthiness;
  • Fidelity – loyalty and faithfulness to family, tribal, and spiritual commitments;
  • Discipline – consistency in effort toward reaching one’s goals;
  • Hospitality – kindness to strangers, travelers, and those who are in need;
  • Industriousness – willingness to work hard toward excellence in productivity;
  • Self-Reliance – pride in the ability to care for one’s own needs;
  • Perseverance – refusal to admit defeat or to let obstacles thwart one’s efforts.”

During the reign of the Roman Empire, state and religion were intertwined. For awhile Rome was religiously tolerant (you could worship whoever you wanted) so long as you paid at least minor tribute to the gods of the state.

In the period of 313 to 391, both Paganism and Christianity were legal religions, with their respective adherents vying for power in the Roman Empire.” see here  . (Although it seems to me, that even by that time, Constantine I  , had already become pretty much pro-christian.)

Taticus (a senator and a historian of the Roman Empire)when writing about the “Christian persecution under Nero, 64–68 AD”

Had described Christians [or Chrestians] as being “a class hated for their abominations” and as “men following a new and malefic superstition”

Saying that

“mobs could be found willing to throw stones at Christians” see here

The dictionary definition of “malefic” is  described as “malignant harmful malicious” see here

During this time the Christians were persecuted to some degree for sure.

But still even-so. One can guess, just from reading the account written by Taticus . That it surely seems more than likely that these early Christians were also at-least somewhat troublesome-group . Not entirely without any-blame,for this bad-treatment they received.

And even unto this very day now in 2013. They still  do seem to be a somewhat “troublesome bunch”.So maybe it’s become a traditional trait that they have also managed to carry on down right throughout the years.

Just by personally experiencing actions of Christians of these modern times today. It’s then also not so hard, to begin to understand why the historian Taticus. Might have described the Christians groups of those ancient times, as being “malefic

In times of the Roman Empire. Christianity pretty much became a “government enforced religion”. Back in times of the Constantinian shift See here

Quote: In 380 Emperor Theodosius I made Christianity the Roman Empire’s official religion (see State church of the Roman EmpireByzantine Empire and the Goths) and did enforce the edict. In 392 Theodosius passed legislation prohibiting all pagan cultic worship

Theologians critical of the Constantinian shift also see it as the point at which membership in the Christian church became associated with citizenship rather than a personal decision. American theologian Stanley Hauerwas names the shift as the foundation for the expression of Christianity in the United States today that is closely associated with patriotism and civil religion. end quote

See here

Quote: The persecution of pagans by the Christian Roman Empire began

 three Emperors, GratianValentinian IIand Theodosius I, under Bishop of Milan Saint Ambrose‘s influence, reinstituted and escalated the persecution.[11][12] Under pressure from the zealous Ambrose, Theodosius issued the infamous 391 “Theodosian decrees,” a declaration of war on paganism,[12][13] the Altar of Victory was removed again by Gratian, the Vestal Virgins were disbanded, and access to Pagan temples was prohibited.

The anti-Pagan legislation, beginning with Constantius, would in time have an unfavourable influence on theMiddle Ages and become the basis of the much-abusedInquisition.[20] ” end quote

 In which the emphasis on empathy and selflessness. Was lacking

Christianity has retained far too much power. For far too long. That has been the biggest problem. And because of domination divisions of the past induced by christian bigotry, now much of our general-society today still remains very divided. In turn inducing an extremely apathetic outlook within general-society, toward lives of other people living around them. A situation that in turn then can lead-on toward the sorts of riots we have seen happen .Whereby nobody seems to even care a toss about the property of other people.

 

 

 

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About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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