George Carey, former archbishop of Canterbury says Christianity helped shaped equality. See here
But one wonders how equal life really is for everyone. When certain abusive Christian cult-groups can still exist today. Like the Exclusive Brethren do. Being issued with charity status and full freedoms. To continually go ahead with causing family division.
This isn’t about Christianity upholding equality. As its only the luck of the draw in life, that in effect decides who get’s born into a cult. And who doesn’t.
And it were Christianity that helped shape that inequality
Christianity has been behind what shaped homophobia. Christianity movement shaped sexism that stopped women from being ordained as priests.
How has this been helpful to equality ?
Christianity helped shape a death sentence for people whom they accused and convicted of being involved in heresy or witchcraft .
So what type of “equality” was this then ? . That helped shape the loss of all those people lives on this earth.
George Carey talks about the Christian faith being the very foundations of our nation’s culture. Does this man forget that people already had many other beliefs that had existed long before Christianity even arrived on the scene. Christianity like an unbridled bully. Pushing and shoving people around
Before Christianity arrived. Nations of people within countries all over the globe. Already had their own lives and traditional beliefs. Being indigenous beliefs that included kinship and honor of their ancestry and ancestors. Often with a spiritual interest in nature too. And more
Traditional beliefs. That Christian/government-combined colonization,then sort to move in and destroy. In effect, splitting and dividing these family clans/tribes off into sub-groups. When they were coaxed into choosing over what christian domination they would choose to support. Just like what also happened with regard to John Darby-split and formation of the Plymouth Brethren groups.
Where is the equality ? in that George Carey. Where was the ? emphasis on empathy and selflessness
Many of these groups of people all had already included their own forms of responsibility, opposition to violence, concern for others and respect for their property. Even if Christian George Carey doesn’t realize it yet
Paganism existed in early Europe , long before Christianity had arrive. That’s how come many of the central concepts of modern Christianity also still has some of its pagan roots . See here
“Origin: The diversity of Pagan traditions includes myths, histories, and lore from a wide variety of pre-Christian sources, including northern Europeans as well as those of ancient Mediterranean communities.” see here
Here is a list of “Nine Noble Virtues” as used by some Norse Pagans:
- “Courage – the ability to face both the joys and the challenges of life fearlessly;
- Truth – honesty and integrity in one’s words as well as one’s actions;
- Honor – strength of character as reflected in one’s behavior and trustworthiness;
- Fidelity – loyalty and faithfulness to family, tribal, and spiritual commitments;
- Discipline – consistency in effort toward reaching one’s goals;
- Hospitality – kindness to strangers, travelers, and those who are in need;
- Industriousness – willingness to work hard toward excellence in productivity;
- Self-Reliance – pride in the ability to care for one’s own needs;
Perseverance – refusal to admit defeat or to let obstacles thwart one’s efforts.”
During the reign of the Roman Empire, state and religion were intertwined. For awhile Rome was religiously tolerant (you could worship whoever you wanted) so long as you paid at least minor tribute to the gods of the state.
“In the period of 313 to 391, both Paganism and Christianity were legal religions, with their respective adherents vying for power in the Roman Empire.” see here . (Although it seems to me, that even by that time, Constantine I , had already become pretty much pro-christian.)
Taticus (a senator and a historian of the Roman Empire)when writing about the “Christian persecution under Nero, 64–68 AD”
Had described Christians [or Chrestians] as being “a class hated for their abominations” and as “men following a new and malefic superstition”
“mobs could be found willing to throw stones at Christians” see here
The dictionary definition of “malefic” is described as “malignant harmful malicious” see here
During this time the Christians were persecuted to some degree for sure.
But still even-so. One can guess, just from reading the account written by Taticus . That it surely seems more than likely that these early Christians were also at-least somewhat troublesome-group . Not entirely without any-blame,for this bad-treatment they received.
And even unto this very day now in 2013. They still do seem to be a somewhat “troublesome bunch”.So maybe it’s become a traditional trait that they have also managed to carry on down right throughout the years.
Just by personally experiencing actions of Christians of these modern times today. It’s then also not so hard, to begin to understand why the historian Taticus. Might have described the Christians groups of those ancient times, as being “malefic”
In times of the Roman Empire. Christianity pretty much became a “government enforced religion”. Back in times of the Constantinian shift See here
Quote: “In 380 Emperor Theodosius I made Christianity the Roman Empire’s official religion (see State church of the Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire and the Goths) and did enforce the edict. In 392 Theodosius passed legislation prohibiting all pagan cultic worship“
“Theologians critical of the Constantinian shift also see it as the point at which membership in the Christian church became associated with citizenship rather than a personal decision. American theologian Stanley Hauerwas names the shift as the foundation for the expression of Christianity in the United States today that is closely associated with patriotism and civil religion.“ end quote
Quote: “The persecution of pagans by the Christian Roman Empire began“
“ three Emperors, Gratian, Valentinian IIand Theodosius I, under Bishop of Milan Saint Ambrose‘s influence, reinstituted and escalated the persecution. Under pressure from the zealous Ambrose, Theodosius issued the infamous 391 “Theodosian decrees,” a declaration of war on paganism, the Altar of Victory was removed again by Gratian, the Vestal Virgins were disbanded, and access to Pagan temples was prohibited.“
In which the emphasis on empathy and selflessness. Was lacking
Christianity has retained far too much power. For far too long. That has been the biggest problem. And because of domination divisions of the past induced by christian bigotry, now much of our general-society today still remains very divided. In turn inducing an extremely apathetic outlook within general-society, toward lives of other people living around them. A situation that in turn then can lead-on toward the sorts of riots we have seen happen .Whereby nobody seems to even care a toss about the property of other people.