Exclusive Brethren seeks elusive free school status

Tesconnect reports Exclusive Brethren seeks elusive free school status

As if it’s not already bad enough that there have been groups all around the world, whom seem to have far-preferred to help promote societies division. Causing all manner of ongoing hurt and harm in the process . Harm partly of which now even manifest itself within the lingering hatred we see whereby these-days even Christians find themselves dealing with bad situations . Like within the middle east.

Now we see how these divisive type groups would also push, to be issued the right, to become school-providers for youth within society.

It may be one thing that certain religious based groups may be issued with right to provide schooling to teach societies youth. But surely its a whole different kettle-of-fish , when groups well-known to be divisive . With beliefs based on bigotry and hatred. Would hope to also be issued with this right

The world has let these things slip through the net . For far too long already. Thus why there is so many ongoing problems within religious-issues, worldwide

One of the biggest problem’s has been . That religion has long had the ability to exist within a veil of secrecy.

This being due to ill-informed laws surrounding freedom of religion. Whereby the idea of upholding freedom , has been translated to mean that religious groups should thus come under no form of regulation.

Imagine if governments made suggestions . That the way to help uphold humans freedom of life . Would be to impose no-regulation on ways humanity decided to live. Thus even meaning that the boy-racers could have right to freely decide for themselves , even about how fast and unruly they chose to drive cars.

Yet how would that help ? to uphold human “freedom of life” . It wouldn’t. Because sooner or later someone gets hurt and harmed.

Thus why the human intention to be upholding people’s freedom . Must also always need to include enforcing certain levels of regulation as well .

Yet religion has been left cut-adrift to run-riot . And many times acting far more like groups of wayward children , gone loose. Acting “feral” like packs of wild beasts.

Anyway. Religious groups would wish to run schools to teach societies youth. And the exclusive brethren group (being re-marketed lately as Plymouth brethren) would wish to run schools too.

Yet this group hasn’t yet done anything to properly address all the harm and hurt that it’s already caused in their past. It’s like they expect to just wipe the slate-clean. And carry on as if nothing had happened.

We can see this form of exclusive brethren ignorance and thoughtlessness, being manifested in the way that exclusive brethren members are being seen to class people whom have been hurt and harmed. As just being some of those “disaffected” people .

Thus how we can tell that this group obviously still remains very-unwilling, to even accept responsibility for the full extent of all the hurt and harm they have already caused.

Why should groups like this be issued the right to provide schools for societies youth.Lets further consider this. If instead it were Hitlers group that was pushing for such rights , would society be ready to also issue his group, with the right of providing schooling for societies youth as well too.

I think not. For in fact it would be totally unwise

This world is already divided, and riddled with ongoing-harm being caused by harsh forms of bigotry that have been given freedom to exist . As even Baroness Warsi has now become well aware.

Its long due time to bring in proper levels of regulation. Regulation that will thus also help to enhance freedom in the long-term

Lets analyze some of the comments being made on this Tesconnect report

6th comment down from the top

teacher490 says Quote :

A moral code based on the bible is followed by 2.1 billion people in the world, approx. one third of all people, making it the largest world faith. So what is wrong with that? Christianity has served the community in many fields esp. education in this country for hundreds of years. The life of Jesus has been an example to many to love and serve their fellow man. 
Some secular humanists may see this as indoctrination but Christians would also see the secular humanist agenda as biased and discriminatory.

End quote

We point out that even if Christians say they follow a code based on the bible. The fact is that this has obviously indeed led to very high levels of bigotry and division . In some cases extreme hatred even .  Which is the very reason why we would now need to see how there are also reported to be approximately 41,000 Christian denominations.

And yet here we see how teacher 490 is busy trying to accuse humanist as being  guilty of discrimination.

We think teacher 490 should perhaps spend a little more time . Studying the disrepair of his own nest. Indeed Christianity has fallen into dilapidation. So much so that some experts even believe that it may end up extinct.

How can teacher 490 claim that this evidence that church follows the standard set by Jesus in regards to an example how to love and serve their fellow-man.

Did Jesus really wish to see this need for 41,000 different christian domination’s

I doubt it

It’s happened because unregulated-religion has been allowed the freedom to run-riot like a wayward child. Causing society endless hurt and harm in the process.

We say . It’s quite obvious that teacher490  has indeed been indoctrinated. If they truly believe that this is they way Jesus would have expected things to become.

Quote dropton49

“From what can be seen of the success rate of their schools (which from my understanding haven’t been around that many years) we should be praising them for their achievements, and wishing them every success in their bid to open Free Schools, at least they’re doing their bit to raise standards.

It also seems from the other comments that those closest to the real situation have serious doubts about the credibility of some of the claims in this article too.”

End quote

We say . Hitler might have been able to provide high success rate within schooling as far as aspects of academic education go . Yet this doesn’t prove that harmful indoctrination wont also still be passed on. People who go on to commit forms of tyranny may also have had forms of academic education. Hitler might have considered his youth had raised standards too

We wouldn’t ? have reason to expect, the teachers that have been hand-picked by the exclusive brethren employee. To be the type that is so likely to complain.

Quote michaelsmith

“They certainly do not live outside of society and are fully aware of life and the U.K issues. The children and families are very supportive and not at all judgemental, as this article is.”

End quote

Michaelsmith either has not even read the church ministry of this group. Or perhaps chooses to turn a blind eye to it

Let me quote in what i record below, what church-ministry of their leader Bruce Hales has stated about the world

Quote :

The ‘Universal Leader’, Mr Bruce David Hales of Sydney, Australia, March 2006

We have to get a hatred, and utter hatred of the world. Unless you’ve come to a hatred of the world you’re likely to be sucked in by it, and seduced by it. You must hate the world, every feature of the world, at every point you hate it.” (above quote cited within law of fair use)

End quote

So either  michaelsmith has been deceived . Or perhaps just chooses to continue to turn a blind eye.

The sad thing is . Some church folk outside the exclusive brethren church circle, will decide to turn a blind eye to these things. In hope that in doing so , it may help protect their own church interests . Thus using the exclusive brethren cult , like they are like the front-row skittles, in a game of skittles. Thus while the exclusive Brethren remain standing untouched. Church groups standing behind them, will relax within knowledge, of their own ability to remain totally untouched too.

Religion has sometimes been run in much the same way that lawyers and doctors and even police associations have been run. Their form of association has been used in way’s to help bolster each others desires .

Thus religious groups may even be often very-unwilling to even dare speak-out about faith abuses continually happening within their own town. Because this act would tend to go-against the grain . Of their faith-associations will to claim a form of freedom of religion ,right that remains almost entirely unregulated.

And yet this is how church groups have been able to continue to persecute people ,within ongoing faith abuses . Without ever being held to account for such nastiness.

Humanity needs to wake up to this

Quote kullyatkar

This article has clearly been written by a misinformed journalist who has failed to fully investigate the facts before bringing this completely biased and one-sided point of view to print.

The brethren are a kind and caring community who live their lives by their Christian faith and beliefs. Their core values do not detract from their contribution to the wider community and to society at large. Contrary to popular belief they are quite an open community who play an active role in modern Britain. They work with and alongside members of the public at large and not just within their own ‘four wall’.

End quote

Lets discuss who is misinformed . And who failed to investigate the facts before bringing a biased one sided point of view.

Let me quote this pieces of reporters news in regards to some exclusive brethren type of school practices

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Teacher sacked for teaching King Lear

End quote

We say. Maybe it is  kullyatkar who is a little misinformed . Who perhaps didn’t think to investigate the full facts of the situation at hand.

Just because kullyatkar hasn’t been harmed personally . Doesn’t do anything to help prove that the exclusive brethren are harmless. For there might even have been certain people existing within Hitlers reign too , that may have felt  that they themselves were personally not being harmed.

Kullyatkar shows a particular type of ignorance . That even people like Jim Jones of the Jonestown Massacre , might have been quite happy to exploit .

As i read on down through all the comments commending exclusive brethren practices . I feel i’m reminded of how so many within society worldwide. Are often quite willing to turn a blind eye , to ongoing nasty aspects of human life .

Just so long as it doesn’t happen to have any detrimental affect on them personally

For many generations. Married women were continually being raped by husbands . And yet very few people cared , unless they were a woman being personally affected. For generations sex abuses continued within church groups. And yet very few cared. Unless it happen to affect them or their own flesh and blood personally.

And society still sit and wonder why this world is existing in such a sad state

(Note : all quotes been cited above, are cited within law of fair use)

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About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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