“How can the Australian and British Governments blindly hand over millions of taxpayer dollars to a cruel Cult? http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=408 ”
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Very interesting post/comment made by abishag . I do agree with most everything abishag said . Except for the idea that these government are acting-blind
I don’t agree with that. Even though i may be disliked, for disagreeing.
Yet i feel the need to be honest about my thoughts
These government don’t act blindly . No government ever acted blindly in regard to this sort of situation.Not even the ancient Roman government acted blindly either, when they chose to go-along with religious-support.
Sure. Maybe they might have acted somewhat-ignorantly. Perhaps their action was mighty un-thoughtful .Or some things like that
But government support of these religious gangs (cults) , is never “so-much” about them being blind. Because its far more about natural human instinct of survival. And in the cases of continued cult-support. It has far-more to do with the overbearing power of organized-religion in general . And the politicians will not to dare attempt to be totally stupid , in committing political-suicide .
Yes Political suicide
See the thing is this . Try as they may . Religious folk ,including Christians,claiming to follow in Jesus footsteps . Cannot escape the reality, that it will also need to take mainstream Church-led initiate ,to help end all this ongoing religious tyranny.
I understand that there may be a number of mainstream church folk , whom may dislike the idea of relinquishing hold of some more power, they have been enabled to wield. Via laws surrounding so-called “freedom of religion” .
A so called Freedom of religion , that more-honestly, obviously allows for the very existence of loads of religious-tyranny.To variable degree’s
But there is no other way around this ongoing situation . At least not anytime soon anyway.
Beside what will be achieved , morally , by trying to just find a way, to simply side-step issues within the real root of the situation at hand .
Do these followers ? of Jesus , care to also have a thought for all the many other people, outside Exclusive brethren, within societies, who are also being forced to be continually living under varying degree’s of ongoing religious tyranny too.
Some of these non-cult Christians , even those within mainstream Christian groups. Still remind me a whole lot of same-way’s displayed by Exclusive Brethren . Because seem’s lot’s like they will also try and find “wriggle-room” ,so as to save themselves simply facing up in full-depth, to certain situations that exist.
And yet they wonder ? why cult members may have learned to act in this manner too.
Don’t they? even get-it yet .That cult members are merely but an extension , of what mainstream religion is also acting much like
A people so unprepared to face-up to the music
It’s now nearly the year 2014 . And yet people have been continually forced to suffer , under ongoing faith abuses, continually for thousands of years now. Due to phony-laws , of so called freedom of religion . Which in any real honesty,amount to little more than being a form of power-grab , continually supported by folks of faith. That helps allow for faith-tyranny
You reap what you sow (Galatians 6:7-9)
And folks of faith helped allow this form of religious tyranny. And continually supported it thereafter too. And so therefore some must also be forced to reap of that what has been sown
When governments , and charity commissions try their best to clamp down on this situation . What happens ?
Certain theist-groups, some even claiming to be mainstream, will suddenly be seen and heard ,stepping up to the plate , screaming blue-murder. Crying and wailing on about things like , “persecution of the church” . Will all start very publicly complaining about it. In droves
That’s what happens
And so government politicians must thus agree to back down .Why?.Because otherwise it would soon become like committing political suicide. For they can stand to get voted out ,by hoards of angry organized Christians .
Come very next government election time
This is what the power of gang-like faith-groups is (a situation that idiot-type people freely agreed to support)
Yet folks like abishag .Do seem to me (and i dont even enjoy saying it.And yet it still feels like,maybe it needs to be said).To only care to allow themselves to see it. As being about a government blindness
Why not see it for what it is ?
In my opinion. Maybe because it’s just a little too-hard to swallow. Too hard to admit folks of faith, outside cults , have “allowed“ religious tyranny to take-hold and have a way to continue to exist . Far too hard to admit , folks of faith have continually supported it
But hey. Guess what . Its too-hard for the Exclusive Brethren to admit how wrong they have been either. Go figure !
Funny coincidence ? that
But no . Cult members , and ex cult members . And even members of some mainstream church groups too . Will choose to remain kind-of locked-up within some weird form of Mexican stand-off
(Commenting how) .”They are wrong . No those folk over there are. No , no , that’s wrong too ,because “our groups folk” happen to know how it was completely all those other-folk, over there’s fault .Cause . We had absolutely nothing to do with any of it ,at all see”.
And so on
And so .On and on and on these faith-abuses must go .As if caught-up in a kind of perpetual motion. Thousands of years must pass. (maybe? thousands more yet too) Cults come and go . Some will maybe suddenly cease to exist . Yet other new ones, are still being formed too, from time to time.
But who actually cares ? . What actually ? ever really changes so much
So long ! as it’s not your group, personally involved . So long as it’s not “your families kids” , who is left dealing with Christmas , without any real wholesome family.
Then it’s not so bad after all. Its pretty ok . Right ?
But hey . Those folks within those cults . You know ,them wayward-folks is not what a “true”-eeeee “real”-llll Christian is like.
Cause Jesus didn’t care to need to step up to the mark,and choose to deal with the root of the real issue . Did he ?
So doing little about fixing it = what a “true real” Christian , might choose to do
After all ,that sort of random action, of doing anything like actually fixing things . Could be ? thought somewhat dangerous. Could tend to get someone really disliked. Hated .Or even killed.Get yourself nailed to the cross, or something
(The Crucifixion (1622) by Simon Vouet)
Saying governments have the power to make these changes needed. Is kind-of like trying to suggest that cult-members possess the power to choose to just up and leave cults, and leave parts of their families behind . (maybe never to see any of them, ever again)
Sure politicians/charity commissions, “can try” to regulate cults. Sure people can choose to leave cults.
But still, it never fixes the root of the problem. Does it. And in any reality , it’s really not a realistic option
None of these people above, can dare to choose to try to go-it-alone (without also knowing to have widespread support, from whole groups of Christians ,including mainstream Christian groups)
Maybe. Some Christians may need to try and learn how to better understand this.