Dobbyn’s ‘hopeful’ song

Dobbyn’s ‘hopeful’ song for Pike River


Kiwi singer and songwriter Dave Dobbyn is unveiling his latest piece of work at a special concert in Wellington this evening.

The song, called ‘This Love’, is a tribute to the 29 men killed in the Pike River Mine disaster, and Dobbyn says it flows straight from his heart.

“Thankfully it’s a hopeful song,” he says. “It deals with the loss and the sadness but it also deals with the love and the hopefulness that that community has.”

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I think its wonderful that people like Dave Dobbyn,will care to bother to do these things. The song talks about love families have.It talks about hope


In the article,later on it also goes on further to say


Dobbyn spent time with families on the West Coast last November, and visited the mine.

You stand there at the portal and you know there’s 29 bodies there through the wall, and each time I went up there I’d take a family member with me, so it was pretty moving,” he says.

The families’ on-going pain moved Dobbyn, and so did seeing the miners’ children.

“There were at least two down there that were born afterwards, and they’re fatherless kids, and they’re cute little things, you know – you fall in love.”

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Bloody terrible thing that our society would have allowed these sorts of tragedy’s the space to even happen.Disgusting.Utterly foolish. They just didn’t have proper safety-systems in place.Did? they.For the authorities (our governments etc) had obviously allowed money, to overrule the human right of life and happiness. And so these people’s families, have had to pay the price of that thoughtlessness.

I don’t wish to try to trivialize these people’s loss.I don’t want to try and trivialize the amount of extreme suffering and hardship they must surely still need to continue to deal with, either. That’s just not my intention at all.

Because we do kind of understand, what it really feels like, when something suddenly rips our families apart. We sure do

Consider for a moment, (as a kind of analogy) that the Exclusive Brethren cult, was like that exploded mine is.And Dave Dobbyn is standing there at the portal of exclusive brethren-ism steel-fenced front gate, knowing full well ,how there is very many families trapped, on the other side of that cold steel wall, year after year.Even generation after generation


We know they are still alive ,yet somehow they feel like they are already totally dead to us.As years go by,sometime we do try to find some way, to bury their memories.We do try to move-on , and stop thinking about the sort of happiness we might have all shared together, if the cult hadn’t exploded in on us all,like it did. Ruining our lives.

But somehow, it feels like we just can’t.

And there is no government financed rescue attempt being put together either.No not at all. Not even after a year.Not even after five years either.Not even after ten or twenty years have passed by.Not after whole generations have passed by.

Not ever ! , so it seems

Because it’s about religion. It’s about the crazy religious right, that exist within our societies, that allows these harmful religions, to keep the right, to decide to cause us this extreme form of harm.

If they wish to do so

Governments wont be allocating us ex cult members,any form of compensation either, for the fact that our lives have all been ripped-apart and wasted in this totally thoughtless manner.Our children will not receive any compensation at all, for the fact they missed out on experiencing the enjoyment and happiness of life,most usually shared, (by normal families)with grandparents,cousins and uncles aunts and all other relations too

Simply because religion has being allocated this idiotic right, to be allowed to harm people in this way.

If it chooses to do so

And our government stand-by , and will do absolutely nothing about it

They busily dance a jig, to these religious fundamentalist folks tune. All acting like a large bunch of feeble-minded puppets

And groups of other theist’s too, all sit on their church-pews, in church each week. Praising their God.Feeling highly superior, and greatly wonderful about themselves.

While this religious-explosion continues ever onward.

And very few, seem to even think, to bother to care less about whats been going on

And many of these pious folk, will still wonder why,it might be, that many of us now don’t even believe in God anymore.Many may even be heard to exclaim “oh dear me, just what has become of the world today”

Go figure !!

Should we believe? that God tells these Christians, to choose to do absolutely nothing, to help fix this disgusting mess

After all, we have often heard many of these Christian folk rattle-ling-on,about how they feel like,they really do have a “personal relationship” with God.And so on

But why should ? we even see any good reason to believe this is likely to be true.When all the evidence seems to suggest, that all these theists, are more than likely,simply being liars

Do they really? believe we are likely to be fooled so easily

The other day i was watching and listening to a late show on Maori TV here in NZ. And i heard comedian, Mike King, busily discussing his views on his past experience with depression ,and discussing about how really important he thought family was.

And i thought to myself “no kidding mate, and don’t we really know it too”.We are forced to try to get over our ongoing issues of depression, without the existence of any close family ties at all

Mike King has been heard to mention how he feel humans need to “learn how to feel worthy”. But exactly how? does one learn to feel worthy ,when religion is allowed to make one feel so-unworthy, even of family life and happiness together

See here

And he also mentions this lovely word “hope” too


At the heart of King’s talk is a message of hope.”

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Another guru, on these issues of depression, John Kirwan,also often talks about how extremely important he feels family is, with regard to these issues too

Its all real wonderful information.It really is

 But is also all fucking useless information too

While our governments all have chosen to keep their heads buried so deeply in the sand

About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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