Pure Exclusive Brethren Nastiness

In my last blog post, i suggested people consider what it might feel like for Dave Dobbyn to stand with a few ex exclusive brethren members, at a portal of exclusive brethren-ism. Their steel-fenced front gate



Knowing that on the other side of this fence,were member’s of their families.Family members whom in some cases they may not have been allowed to have any contact with, for decades.

Ex members,and even members, of these cults and closed religious groups,will all need to learn to live, knowing full well, that their family relations are still alive.Even though, in a way they also begin to feel kind of dead too, this is due to the loss of contact.

Family is a kind of culture. This helps explain why some family relationships will end up being closer-relationships, than what some other people’s family relationships will be like.Because family-culture is effected by the family environment. And so, if someones family, happens to be born-into, and thus develops within a cold-hearted cult. Then relationship’s can end up cold and distant. The natural love and affection, can be altered.Because it will have needed to have become suppressed 

Almost in much the same manner that some cold-hearted murderers, early lives were found to have been developed within a family setting that was highly dysfunctional

And these things can have long-lasting effects on ALL people who have experienced it.Sometimes the effects become so deeply-ingrained ,within these people’s whole-“being”, that it will cause them irreversible damage.Extensive damage, that really never ever heals.


Back in the year 2003. Bruce Hales decided it were time to introduce something that would become known as being the “review”.

The review was a time (in our life), when right out of the blue,suddenly our long-lost eb family member, or perhaps members, would have tracked us down (found out where we were living),and would arrive and be knocking on our doorstep.

Maybe you can imagine our great-surprise.In my situation, the eb-family members that had suddenly appeared on my door step ,i had not ever seen, or spoken to, for over 26years

They had been directed (by Bruce Hales) to come and see us ,and tell us that the exclusive brethren had changed, and were saying how they were very sorry, about the horrid way they had treated us.

As you may imagine. We were very surprised. We were overwhelmed.Our emotions went really haywire.

I mean. Just imagine what it might feel like for family of those Pike river miners (discussed in my last blog post) ,if suddenly after 26years , suddenly their long-lost family, had returned.

You can imagine how we felt right. You can imagine the joy.The happiness.The feeling of life starting anew.Life having a new chance to become what we had long hoed it might have been able to be.

And many of us, simply swallowed what they told us their intentions were.Because obviously, we also wanted to really believe that our own flesh and blood, just wouldn’t ever be likely, to want to be so nasty, as to be so blatantly dishonest, about such issues like this was

Suddenly appearing back into our lives again ,after 26years had passed by.

But alas we were very wrong. For they lied to us.For indeed the reality is that their intention, had far more to do with PR tactics . Just much like the same sly cunning tactics that is currently being displayed, by their RRT (see here for info http://www.plymouthbrethrenchristianchurch.org/media/videos/rapid-relief-team/)

Their “review” was just another a cunning ploy to out fox us all. I’m told, that it was possibly devised at the time,as a way, to try and find a way to offset some sort of bad-publicity, that was about to unfold.Maybe? someone was about to make-public ,some form of nastiness their group had been involved in. And so they devised a cunning-plan ,to try “remove the heat” from their doorstep.

Anyway.We fell for it hook line and sinker . Because we wanted to believe our own flesh and blood, SURELY wouldn’t ever allow us to be mistreated ……. AGAIN

But, oh how very wrong we were. Because once they had allowed us to have free-contact again, for perhaps 6months or so. And could see that we had no intention of re-joining their religious group . Then they promptly proceeded to close-down our contact again.

Just imagine how families of the Pike river miners would feel (emotionally) if their families had returned after being missing for 26years . Only to then just totally disappear all over again ,only 6 months later

And the governments don’t seem to give a damn.They have not done anything about it, as yet, anyway. We are forced to learn to find a way to try and live our lives within this madness. We are expected to try and remain sane-enough to be able to hold down a job.Be a good parent to our children.Be a decent partner within a relationship.

A people like Mike King ( whom i also mentioned within my last post) will explain how important it is that people need to learn to feel worthy.Worthy??

Humans can find ways,to rise above the very worst issues in life . When they know how they have family, who do love and care about them.

But sometimes, it feel so hard to do that, when it feels like your own flesh and blood, seem far more like its become your WORST enemy. Your very WORST nightmare

I freely admit to being kind of crazy. But the thing is, i have my reasons for this . And ive only just touched the surface , in explaining, what has driven me to my craziness. I have so much more to tell

I now have some form of PTSD. The trauma of experiences mounted up. I now have these reoccurring nightmares,where crazy situations ive experienced though out life, will keep on reoccurring.Its like I’m being haunted. I have ongoing problems with anxiety, anger issues,and so on .I find it hard to think straight in making quick decisions.Even if i do manage to get some sleep,i still awaken feeling really exhausted.


My exclusive brethren family choose to separate from us.So as to secure a place for themselves within eternity,and thus save their own skin’s.

Evidently they faithfully like to also believe, that their friend Jesus, has really paid the full price of their sins, and this salvation they all hope to gain for themselves.

So thus it also seems, they like to see, our (us ex exclusive brethren members) situation that we are being forced to experience.

As being something that is cost-free


Even the fact that our children, never got to experience life the way that most normal kids do

They thus have also deemed to be something that’s considered as

Cost free

If you think i’m making a story up about the exclusive brethren ,about this thing they had called the review.

Then as evidence, that it happened, i will point out here below  a quote ,and a  link, to where you can see how another ex eb member was also discussing about it

Quote :

They had an audit of sorts in 2003 and realised that they had treated an awful lot of people very wrongly. So they sought them out and said so. But when those people who had been thrown out and had their lives wrecked did not immediately return to their fold- they were immediately ignored again. A few even got to see their parents or children again – very briefly. But that benefit was withdrawn with no explanation as well. Their arrogance is legendary.” http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=438&hilit=The+2003+review

end quote (my bold)

Here abishag, (a wikipeebia member)  refers to what was widely known as being the exclusive brethren review ,as being “an audit of sorts”

(Note: all material cited above ,is being cited here, within law of fair use)


About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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