You Can’t Make A Silk Purse Out Of A Sow’s Ear


Quote The Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr. Michael Ramsey ,1964 :

“We believe that religious liberty is too precious to be impaired”

end quote  See here 

The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Michael Ramseys line of  argument is some kind of fallacy. It poses the argument, that says that religious liberty will exist,so long as nobody ever dares to interfere(IE: for instance like take part in placing any kind of ban of the exclusive brethren group)

This line (the Archbishop used) of argument is false. A non sequitur . A false dilemma  . Or something like that

Fact is that somebodies religious liberty will still come under threat, due to the very fact that this kind of religious liberty will thus-way also tend to allow for some forms of religious tyranny to also happen.

Theist have traditionally often chosen to use this kind of sophistry. Deceitful manipulative type of people .Much the same type tactics like what is also now being used within the Exclusive Brethren group too, these days

Religious liberty is,and always was going to be, no-more than a pipe dream . Always has been. Always will be

Its like the dog that will always end up with consuming its own tail. Because

1. If religious liberty is going to be upheld.

2.Then what? is there that will? ever be able to stop some-peoples religious liberty, from ending-up with “being impaired“.

3.When the “scale” of religious liberty will be likely to run from a state of complete liberty,or perhaps to a state of impairment

Exactly like what has indeed obviously happened ,like within this case with the Exclusive Brethren group

But i doubt that the Archbishop  Dr. Michael Ramsey was so-concerned about upholding religious liberty. Half as much as he was maybe far more concerned about the possibility that his own liberty might some day perhaps come under question

If religious liberty is said to exist.

Then how come? there can still be some of us people around in this world, whom in some way or other are experiencing this lack of religious liberty.

Because this bullshit has been built of a foundation of lies. Its built on the foundation of the deceitful sophistry that has been used by theists, just like this  Archbishop  Dr. Michael Ramsey chose to use .

I remember debates that had happened on the peebs net site, about this idea of the need of upholding religious liberty. Debates in which fear-mongers like Iain Gibb would also start with  posing these false dilemma .Warning us of the slippery-slope of loss of liberty, should any kind regulation ,or ban ever be allowed to start.

As if ?? our right of liberty of beliefs, are not already being impaired, and regulated, already in some way . As if ? we are not already living with a slippery-slope , a slippery slope rangeing from forms of religious liberty down-to forms of religious tyranny

So either way. We must still deal with a slippery slope

What kind? of dumb fuck couldnt be able to see this plainly for themselves.What? kind of idiots couldnt be able to figure this out. A vast bunch of brain-dead church groupies perhaps?. Folks not so often trained-how to be thinking, with their own minds.

Why didnt ? somebody promptly speak-up and point out to the Archbishop  Dr Michael Ramsey.That either-way , some peoples right to religious liberty. Was still under threat, ALREADY !!

What did? Archbishop  Dr Michael Ramsey’s speach ever do, to help secure religious liberty, for people whom would end up with being born into the exclusive brethren type groups

Anything ?

I’ll tell you what his speech has helped to do for people like us. It has helped to cement our lives within a life long state of “family misery and mental agony”

That is what it has helped to do

This is the legacy of Christendom . Christendom in general has done a mighty good enough job,for itself , in bringing Christianity into ill-repute.

The exclusive Brethren type groups, have merely helped to highlight the woeful evil ignorant types of attitudes, that so-often has traditionally often long existed among groups of believers

This is the legacy of Christendom. That the earthly lives, of some people like ourselves.Would thus way need to be left to be wasted-away, by being overrun by the tactics of evil sophistry,that many theist people, like the Archbishop, had purposely chosen to use

The Archbishop of Canterbury Dr. Michael Ramsey, was blindly-intent on trying to create a silk purse, out of a pigs ear

Religious liberty is an impossibility . Because sooner or later it will end up with devouring itself

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About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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