Reap What Is Sown

Quote : Fisherman  Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:07 pm

“40 year Scientology member David Miscavige is ready to release his book ‘Ruthless’ ….sounds like a good name that describes the Brethren activities,without compassion,kindness, devoid of natural affection-RUTHLESS,disguised as ‘being faithful'( I imagine the Scientologists will denounce the book as ‘all lies’ and the work of ‘disaffected former members who are ‘very bitter’)”

 

See here http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=935&start=20

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reap_what_you_sow

 

Another book being written about faith abuses , wont be likely to make any real difference. The ripple effect that it may have, will be much-like as-if it were just another drop of water, that were dripping into an-Atlantic-ocean of ongoing faith abuses worldwide

Very few will care ! . But then how ? could that happen . When our countries are claimed to be Christian countries

Because lets face it. So many believers worldwide, have also long-helped to condone and uphold these kind of abuses. Believing it to be about, upholding people’s right to have freedom of faith

 

Use of the words

without compassion,kindness, devoid of natural affection-RUTHLESS,disguised as ‘being faithful

Could just as easily also be used to closely describe the millions and millions of pious mainstream Christians worldwide. With their deep rooted apathy and indifference that they constantly display, towards all these ongoing faith abuses and forms of religious tyranny that we are experiencing

They ought to be totally ashamed . This is the Christian legacy, that they have allowed to develop

But there is also another reason why these pious folk, dont want to take-action and back any government or charity commissioner, who might think to try and solve these cult issues. . These pious Christian folk, will also fear where such actions, might then lead on to. Could some? aspects of their own groups “practices”,soon begin to come under scrutiny as well too . Who? knows

People like Fisherman, seem think that our government might actually decide to step-in and stop allowing the exclusive brethren ,the right to be able to retain charity status. If they are found out, to be causing harm .

But then do folks ? like Fisherman, even consider?, the full size of this can of worms, that this kind of government-action, might then open .Does? he think about that. Do? folks realize how many groups there are, that could be considered to possibly be harmful , to some extent . Because sites like this site here http://www.cults.co.nz/p.php , can sure as hell begin to offer us a good kind of idea, of just how many “dangerous” group there may be

And then.Imagine the amount of Christian “outrage”, that might soon appear. Should government authorities,such as the charity commission ever decide to try to interfere. Do folks like Fisherman ever? care to consider,just how much opposition ? the charity commissioner’s might actually continue to be experiencing,at anytime they do try intervening. Do? people like Fisherman, honestly think that the charity commissioners (the government authority full of intelligent people) could have actually “overlooked” the fact that certain faith abuses, are in fact still continuing

Folks need to cut to the chase and get real.

They (charity commission folk) will already know that these abuses are continuing. But the problem is, that they are still powerless, to be able to intervene. When

  1. there is also such little support, being offered to them ,via Christian channels  (Unless? Fisherman can do us the honor, of supplying us with any evidence, to suggest otherwise)
  2. compounded by the fact that there is also more than enough disapproval of such actions, that is coming from within the Christian channel

 

Very few theists will ever care, to actually offer their own support (actively or in writing) of any action, that government authority might be seen to try to use to control faith-abuses . Because they also cannot be sure, exactly where this kind of control, might lead to . A that thought, leaves some theists feeling somewhat afraid

For instance .

1 . Is it? also a faith abuse, for faith groups to actively be against gay lifestyles

2. Is it faith abuse, to cause children to fear going to hell

3. Is it? faith abuse, for any group to make demand that the priests should need to remain celibate

 

 

And so on . (so as can be seen it’s then like some freaking minefield, for any “charity commissioners” to “dare” to tread)

 

And while plenty of mainstream Christian may “quietly” say that they care about the people whom are experiencing faith abuses . At the same time, very few of these people will ever decide take action to help government control these faith abuse. Simply because these folk will also understand, how some of there own abusive faith practices, may also soon need to come under the spot light as well too

People like Fisherman, can often be seen to be pleased to argue how the exclusive brethren cannot ever be compared to mainstream Christians. And i can agree, its true that exclusive brethren beliefs , are far more blatantly harmful, than what some of the faith beliefs of mainstream Christians are like

However it is still the mainstream Christian folks , that the exclusive brethren  find-room to hide behind

I see it like this

  1. Cults are those very-lost people whom are able to be causing some people the most harm
  2. But it is the mainstream Christian groups (those whom are claiming to not be lost) , whom have helped to sanction and accommodate it. Which thus way, is in fact also the most-evil of all (The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing)

 

Imagine (just for interest sake) if we humans were to have decided to make no laws, that would help make rape and violence, into an actual illegal-act . Imagine if the “non-abusive” human beings, were to decide to just sit-back and only keep on calling the abusers names, instead. To sit there and say, how those abusive people,were inconsiderate people whom ought to be ashamed of themselves

What? about the fact that we had chosen to also just allow them to have the “right” to continue to do so (which we havent done. Considering that us humans have used-enough common sense, as to have actually made these things into an illegal-act)

Who? would be the biggest hypocrite .

1.The? rapist and the women basher

2. Or? the pious faith prat, who simply sits back and allows it to remain legal.While busily thinking his own shit never stinks

Then apply that same thing, to loads of mainstream folk. Sure they may not be directly involved in faith abuses that have divided families. But it is still the large numbers of these mainstream christian people within their own domination’s, whom have helped to preserve this religious-right, for all these cults to cause harm

Why?

Because some will already fear, that some of there own actions , could also be considered as being harmful

Who then are the biggest hypocrite ?

  1. Those? whom do harm because they have been issued the legal-right to do so
  2. Or those whom would constantly choose to decide to turn a blind eye to it, so as to still retain the option of that very same right, for themselves

These faith abuses. Wont ever cease .

Until such times as either

1 .mainstream Christian are ready to also own up to the fact that they have been those people whom have stood by, and have thus helped to condone it

2. Christian numbers have fallen so-low that they will have become a minority, so that atheists and humanist will then be able to have enough numbers, to make demand that these changes are actually made

Mainstream Christianity have become “indifferent” to the harm that others are forced to suffer, in cults . Mainstream Christianity has allowed that faith harm would have room to be considered as being something “somewhat normal”, and thus “ok”

So one more book, being written by someone whom has experience faith harm .

Will be like just another drop of water, falling within an Atlantic ocean of harm

Therefore why it will be unlikely, for it to cause even a “slightest ripple”

 

Fisherman might be able to cotton onto this fact for himself. If he was ever likely to be willing, to care to admit the possibility that i might be speaking the truth

Sadly to do so. Would also be for the Fisherman-types of folk, to wake-up and smell the roses, To need to admit, that the Christian faith in general. is in fact also riddled by many harmful aspects

Society, via support of mainstream Christianity, has allowed that by-now we human will have become quite-accustomed to the ongoing-existence of faith abuses

So.Another book being written, is unlikely to help to cause all that many ripples, to suddenly appear

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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