Religion is Out Of Touch

Dr Francis Macnab of St Michael’s Uniting Church thinks “the church is out of touch”

And i totally agree with him.


Because all the while the church, and church-members, all remain so-focused  on their own goal of hopefully gaining their own right to have eternal life and a place in eternity

Meanwhile there is all sorts of harmful things still blatantly happening within religion and within some people’s religious circles.Some of what will also include excommunication of family.

Yet the church and its followers, in the main-part, will tend to think very little of it.Many wont even know anything about what other people’s lives are like who were born into cults .Most wont even stop to consider the full-cost of their goal for eternal life.And the harm that is happening within religion, must be factored-in as also being part of the collateral accumulated cost For their main focus , will be “how they can go about gaining a place in eternity for themselves” . Few will even consider the fact that Jesus didn’t  actually pay the full cost of salvation. Far from it in fact

This might sound light a very unsavory thought , for some theist’s to even hear being said. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that im so wrong in  saying-it, does? it. And maybe theists might first do better, to stop and just simply asked themselves first, why this “thought”  feeling so unsavory (*rather than shoot the messenger).Why does the mere sound of this thought, feel so-unsavory to theist-folk to even hear it being spoken, if in fact the thought were to be so-wrong

Theists would only need to do a simple google search, to see if my suggestion is wrong . Try googling “faith abuse” or “faith abuses”  (in  google-news section ), to see how many hits there are. I bet there will be very little information to find. There will be a few articles about sex abuse within the Catholic church. But very little about excommunication of families within religion. Or anything much about the  ongoing cult problems

So how can that be then ? . If theist are caring enough, to also care how much the full-price of their place in eternity, might be costing

Sad fact is. That most wont even consider, that another persons suffering within another religious-group, might also need to be factored-in as all be a-part of the collateral accumulated cost, of their own salvation

No way. Mostly these folks minds are just so highly focused on the great-joy of their own gains.Many of them literally “jumping for joy”, almost as if they continually remain in some kind of “jubilant trance” . The Jesus drug has worked it’s magic. They found that sense of “peace”, the sense of peace that can also even help to numb thoughts of concern for some other folk living around them whom are forced to experience religion quite differently

Then next ,try something different. Try googling something else. Like the word “abortion”. Or google the words “religious liberty” perhaps ** .Or even better try the words “gay marriage” And so on


Then see how many google-hits you will suddenly be able to find then.See the mega amount of information.Take notice of the high level of “Christian” interest and concern too. See how many interested “thoughts” of theists that will soon suddenly appear from within the internet.

Try it.


Then come on here, if anyone of you have enough guts to try to prove to me how im wrong


Dr Francis Macnab is correct. The church has completely lost its way.It will do no good, for someone like our friend Fisherman to try to keep on continually denying it. To carry on with the bullshit of this so-called “real-Christian” mantra only helps to deepen this problem

If so-many “real christian” do exist somewhere hidden-away within this world somewhere. Then where? oh where are they all. And where? is their active-concern of the ongoing problem of faith abuses . We don’t seem to see or hear anything-about it, from these people

Lets us not continually beat around the bush. Lets just cut to the chase here

No use living in a dream world. A dream world where “real Christians” are supposedly those whom honestly actually think to care

The evidence suggests.That those sorts of Christians, sure do seem so very few and far between


Little wonder that religion is in decline

* Im not here to help prop-up Church pride. There is more than enough of that already happening within many church-circles

** You will see many hits on googling the words religious liberty.The is plenty of religious concern in regards to religious liberty. However the concern for ” religious liberty” is only in regards to the religious right to still be able to shun and persecute and continue to cause harm certain types of people. It is not any concern for rights of religious liberty of any ex-cult members rights not to be harmed or persecuted, for choosing to leave some cult fellowship behind



About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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