If God is about love, he sure still manage to help to create a whole lot of hate


MUSKOGEE, Okla. (Christian Examiner) – A children’s home founded by a Baptist missionary among the Native Americans of Oklahoma just after the Civil War has taken a costly stand to honor its commitment to God.

According to a press release from the Murrow Indian Children’s Home in Muskogee, the group will not accept a large donation from a group of atheists because the atheists asked that the donation be recognized as given “In Honor of the Muskogee Atheist Community.”


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Atheist have constantly donated to theist-run charities. However atheist mostly never demanded to also have that fact publicly acknowledged ,in times past . And partly because the atheist also knew that they would then face active Christian hatred toward non-believers

Theism has been constantly steeped in all kinds of bigotry. And so should we have reason to be so-surprised ? if first nation folk can be seen to live within ongoing family dysfunction . When we also consider that the kind of love they are being fed-with , is conditional kind of love

Theists whom received charity-status and whom also enjoyed the bonus of ownership of rate-free property’s . Also proceeded to pride themselves with the thought that theists had been those people to have built far more schools and hospitals, than what any groups of atheist had ever done

As if ? this fact should some how be all that surprising to us

  1. Theist have tax exemptions and rate rebates etc. While theists constantly also proceed to demonize anyone caught publicly declaring they are an atheist (atheist are thus then forced into living in secrecy)
  2. Theist groups than naturally thrive. While atheism is forced into hiding and secracy
  3. Theist triumphantly claim the high-ground, pointing out how theists have also built more schools and hospitals than what atheist have


This is (evidently) an aspect of these theists portrayal of Gods unconditional love .

In certain places, like the USA .Many of those folks are now even becoming honest enough to now admit how their country does have problem with persecuting atheists .Atheists are pretty much hated.So much so, that theist folk within these places are “more likely” to accept that folks are gay . Than to ever accept atheists

Of course it is also somewhat unlikely to ever dawn on the theist faith-soaked-brain, that they might even have “anti-love problems” here that are still continually been taught (indoctrinated) to children, from cradle to the grave (finer details of matters)

But the overbearing problem is this. If God is mostly to do with love. Then why? the hell do theists feel that they have this need to continually make such a big-deal of God

Christians would have us believe that God is about love. Trouble is that the same theists then still cannot help themselves from also adding some conditions. Making Gods love , “conditional”

Theism is this-way bound to a natural-source of bigotry. Because theism is a statement that man isn’t to be considered good enough as a human ,if human is also without belief in God

Where as humanism (which many atheists also are) is understanding/accepting that man simply isn’t perfect.Because humanism involves very little aspects of condemnation of humanity,thus why humanism can more easily be understanding and accepting of human mistakes and imperfections. Thus making it far-easier for humanism to just try to build bridges and aim to help humanity try to do the best that it possibly can. Like , it is highly unlikely that we will ever see humanist split and splinter off into humanist sub-groups. Like Baptist humanists, Catholic humanist, Brethren humanist , etc

Humanism accepts human

So what we see here with these theists (people whom want to believe in God) is these aspects of the bigotry-problem that they automatically inherit along with their faith belief. Which leads to their endless struggle, with trying to (on one hand) pretend to be “unconditionally loving” (in the nature of God) at the very same time as they are also busily harboring these thoughts of “purity” which is directly connected to their chosen flavor of faith in God.Which as such also happen to include certain moral expectation


On wikipeebia  Fisherman has this to say



“I try to get the ESSENSE of what the bible teaches rather than getting hung up on details”


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Like as if ? the finer details dont really need to matter .


And for sure Fisherman is obviously more than comfortable with “theists” right of living their lives in this manner. But only up until such time, as they may start demanding-differently in the way that they would also seem to feel/say that perhaps those exclusive brethren should perhaps learn how to pay a little more attention, to some finer details of matters

That’s the thing with theist like Fisherman. They cannot be consistent.They think that faithful folk should pay little interest in the finer details one moment (when it happen to suit themselves), but very next moment think some-theist should some how think to bother

How that is likely to happen at the right moment. When theists are also so constantly been taught to not-bother . Your guess is as good as my guess . By? relying on devine intervention perhaps

Trouble is that theism tends to induce people into a kind of trance. We can see it with Fisherman, the man is often lost in such a faith-trance that he cannot seem to comprehend how unlikely it will be that “tranced-out” theist could ever honestly learn how to turn their faith-trance “off or on”  right at the exact moment when its really needed to happen

People drunk on religion, mostly dont tend to remain so-alert to such things . Which of course also help to explain why so many can be seen to be ignorant to sex abuse cover-ups.Or ignorant to the fact that their own-pastor is fleecing them of their own-money.Even entirely ignorant to the fact of their local priests involvement in adultery.And so on


So now we have a world literally flooded with faithful folks living exactly like Fisherman recommends. Millions of folk whom dont bother to see much sense in any real need to actually contemplate any finer details for themselves

Hense why it really should be no great surprise to any of us either, that in fact in this year 2016 there is still abusive cults a plenty in existence (why would cult members consider the finer details to be important. When it has been common theist-practice to continue to promote the idea that finer detail really only matter sometimes

I mean. Its not like theist are really so-bothered to help promote the idea that finer details should really need to actually matter

If Fisherman feel that his faith is foundered on rock. Then why? does he have any need to fear contemplation of finer details of such matters

Theists do often inadvertently openly display their own doubts. They may easily fool many theist-folk , but they still dont so-easily fool us non-faithful folk , whom happen to see how very important these finer detail can often be

Theist have need to adhere to this practice overlooking finer details. Because without maintaining this way of living,as they also can see how faith in holy books could soon disappear too, if too many more people were to suddenly start looking into too many of these finer details

Faith in God. Rely’s on followers maintaining a level of ignorance among the followers. Theist know how faith in God is doomed, once without it

Lets not forget.Keeping the “average Joe” ignorant has always been a bit of a long Christian tradition. This phenomena help to explain reasons why the Catholic church (in past times) had even made it illegal for any normal citizen to possess their own copy of the bible,so as to read for themselves

Mind you. Even those theist folk would have still been heard to crow-too, about how God was evidently still all about love

Sure. And if God is all about love then. Then why? the hell do so many men of faith constantly still see this rabid-need, to need to be constantly making such a big-deal about this God then

And if God exists. And yet still decides to remain unseen , and offers humans no  real decent evidence of his own existence. Yet still demand to punish anyone whom happen to lack faith

This is indeed a God that lay snares in which to help entrap many humans. This is a God, that act little more moral, than like what the dictator Kim Jung-Un is also like













About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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