The Questioner Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:31 am Actually, the Bible is one of the wisest books around if you make effort and aren’t literal.
How is e teaching of Jesus spurious? What is so bad about loving one another, visiting prisoners, caring for the sick, turning the other cheek etc?
The bible sure contains some wise philosophy. However the bible also contains a number of lies .And some philosophy that perhaps could be considered pretty bad philosophy too
Is it? a wise thing, to bother to try to uphold blatant lies, and dubious philosophy.While? also suggesting it to have been inspired by God (thinking about where this could lead)
Bullshitting about talking snakes,donkeys and burning bushes and so on.Suggesting someone might have cast out demons, into a herd of pigs and so on.Suggesting people had been able to have raised other people from the dead.Making suggestion that without-doubt, God existed and that one evidence of this was that prayers would be answered,even though science has been able to have proved these kind of claims to obviously be complete bullshit (if it were not complete bullshit,then maybe by now theist might have been put in-charge of the job of curing peoples health issues) .
The bible contains some great philosophy. But its hard to think the bible is so-wise when considering the amount of bullshit also contained within it
It seems (to me) specially unwise to tell such blatant lies. Specially in a book that folks are also intent on suggesting was inspired by God
How stupid ? was that
Its hard to think of anything more unwise than that. Consider the amount of harm that it has also helped cause, harm that still continue causing harm to some people even still these days too
The questioner seem to be under the impression that before Jesus arrived , people might not have loved one another . Seem to be under the impression that before Jesus arrived on the scene, there was nobody who ever even bothered to care about anyone in jail, nobody who cared about anyone who was sick, nobody who had ever decided to just turn the other cheek
I dont believe this .The fact is that empathy has been one human-trait that has long been one driving force within human evolution. Empathy trait helps to make the human race fittest for survival
This is reality
Theist try thinking of human evolution as being like a “every man/women for themselves” type of situation . Theist have been indoctrinated to believe that without Jesus ,then human wouldn’t have any other reason to care about other people
This is because theists have been misinformed . The information they were fed with, sometimes from their birth, has been inaccurate information
Sadly the Questioner has let his own bias Christian-view get the better of him
Jesus was a pretty decent fellow.Somewhat specially so too considering the general situations existing back in those ancient times.No doubt about that
However it seems to me that Jesus was still human.Jesus wasn’t perfect
For instance. Consider this verse here
Mark 7:24-37King James Version (KJV)
24 And from thence he arose, and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon, and entered into an house, and would have no man know it: but he could not be hid.
25 For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
26 The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children’s bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.
28 And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children’s crumbs.
29 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
30 And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed.
Is ? Jesus being racialist and/or sexist . Should ? any-humans be looked-upon as if they are being compared to dogs
If so . Then was ? that wise . Specially when we also consider how racism and sexism has continued with still remaining a bit of a problem even still unto today
Christian apologist talk about making an effort to not take the bible literally
Seem to me that what they may really be saying is more like , “remember to also be prepared to turn a blind eye” to certain things
Zobstick Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:41 am
The world would be a much better and a far happier place if we could just abandon religion altogether. Human progress will continue to be held back until this happens in my view.
I agree. I hazard a guess that Jesus might be likely to also agree. I hazard a guess that Jesus might even be mighty highly unimpressed with the way that people have chosen to idolize his life
Think about the amount of collateral harm that this has helped to cause.Think about how many humans were burned at the stake.How many humans were tortured so as to force them to believe certain faith beliefs
We can only hope (for Jesus sake) that Jesus (being dead) is also totally unaware of the amount of disgusting hurt and harm that has been allowed to continually amount , in the name of Jesus
Jesus suffered but a few days of his life.Evidently, in only a matter of days he was raised from the dead
This pales in comparison to the “huge amount of collateral suffering”, that faith in Jesus-as-god has helped to continually cause so many people ever since then
So many peoples whole lives have been wasted and lost. Due to the idolization of God
This is totally unwise