PeterF Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:38 am
IMPOSING VIEWS is what is annoying me. Even our national football league has changed their logo with ‘VOTE YES’ along with our major airline, banks, supermarkets etc and if you comment adversely or don’t publicly support the YES [to marriage ‘equality’] you are presumed to be against it, if you put a logo on your business ‘VOTE NO’, if you make any comment in the NO flavour, then all hell breaks loose, you are likely to be sacked from your job, and if a professional person likely to be reported as ‘unfit’ to your registration board.
Religious freedom may be protected but if you are no a church or religious institution, such as a baker, a photographer, private school you cannot exercise the right to either express or prefer your views.
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I’m guessing, that perhaps Peter F is maybe upset about this kind of situation that i’ll now quote below ?
LAKEWOOD, Colo. — Jack Phillips bakes beautiful cakes, and it is not a stretch to call him an artist. Five years ago, in a decision that has led to a Supreme Court showdown, he refused to use his skills to make a wedding cake to celebrate a same-sex marriage, saying it would violate his Christian faith and hijack his right to express himself.
I can understand Peters anger. However, what if the tables were ever turned around ?
If that began to happen .Should atheist be freely allowed to demand to refuse to serve any Christians as well ? . Would it be quite-ok if Atheists said “well its against my beliefs“to ever serve any believers?. My belief is, that religious people are evil, therefore they also should never ever be served anywhere on my business premises
The problem is where does this situation end up ?
NZ is become pretty non religious these days (and plenty of other countries as well now too.Countries like England for instance). There is a high percentage of atheists around NZ nowadays.A number of gay folk as well. And if this anti gay situation keeps up.Then you can pretty much be able to bet your bottom dollar. That chances are, there will also soon enough be some kind of real push-back a backlash that will begin to arise out of the ashes of this situation as well
How will Peter F feel about that ?. Would he then begin to feel like he’s being persecuted ? (only Peter F know the answer to this)
No body is demanding that Peter F , or anyone else , has any need to ever become Gay or have any need to enter into gay marriage also themselves too.
So.Perhaps they may need to consider that?
Merely asking someone to bake a cake,or to take a photo for you, is little to do (more or less near-nothing in fact) with any demand of them to need to also-agree with any of your-own other personal choices
This is reality
However.Sadly some religious folk,would seem so-intent on demanding to need to make a huge mountain out of a molehill ?
Unbelievable (well almost)
But you mark my word.You just watch and wait-out for them,to all begin to moan and bleat and to begin scream persecution, as soon as the tables start to get turned back-around on themselves for a change
And you bet it will happen
When so-many folks (very likely some faithful religious folk included too), may even soon start to totally refuse to ever use their service ever again. (refuse to do business with bigotry)
This is how silly this kind of situation has real-possibility to become
What ever next ?
Like .Perhaps ,soon enough,there’s a good-chance that certain Christian folk may begin totally refusing to ever even serve any Islamist folk either perhaps as well too ?
Or Vice versa as well perhaps ?
Crazy situation (and so little wonder there’s been so many wars)
But worst of all, silliness and stupidity
Folks should really know far better, by now. Its 2017 ?
Don’t bother to ever demand freedom for yourself (ex exclusive brethren folk) .If you also remain so bloody stupidly unprepared to care to make it also happen for “other folk” too
Stand to reason ?