Humbled Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:09 pm
As I understand it you are arguing that people who believe that the bible is the inerrant word of God have a closed mind
Maybe I am missing something but it seems to me that if I press the belief that I dont accept that the bible is inerrant then I would also be guilty of having a closed mind. A bit like the kettle calling the pot black?
Humbled is missing something.In fact Humbled is missing a whole lot of things . Kind of like someone standing in front of a whole herd of elephant,while then still saying that he still hadn’t even notice a thing?
Look at this list here
Bible Inconsistencies – Bible Contradictions? https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html
If you look further at this site, you’ll see how they have also listed
Now theists can perhaps rightfully argue “the details” in regards to certain issues.Argue (split hairs) about what is in fact wrong and what’s still right.And yet theist would still be pretty had pressed to argue that the whole bible is inerrant
Add to that the fact that believers are still being forced to need to “cherry pick” in reagrds to their decision about what they may feel they may believe is right, or wrong
This is the large elephant what Humbled is missing
Then to top this off. Even Jesus must have also felt that a number of things recorded within the old holy book (old testament. IE which was also supposedly inspired from God as well too) was errant
Like for instance “eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Exodus 21:24
So the idea of inerrancy does not stack-up, it seem like it’s an idea that’s not able to be defended
So no. There’s no ground here, for Humbled to declare “kettle calling pot black”
This is a miscalculation. A gross miscalculation that Jesus wouldn’t be likely to even agree with
Is Humbled (by forum name) actually humbled enough (by nature) to see-it ?
Meanwhile, earlier other folks on wikepeebia said
fisherman Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:25 pm
Like many ‘issues’ I fail to understand why anybody fights over it,much less breaks a church up over it…fact is,like many things,we just don’t know.In my opinion,time would be better spent taking a pot of soup to a shut in than ‘armchair theology’
In other word.Fisherman seem to be promoting this idea ?
Who cares if its wrong. Why should we care if these scripture are not quite actually inspired word of God after all ?. Who need to care, that so many people might have been burned at the stake in times past because of it ?. Why should we need to really care now about it either(so long as we don’t hurt anyone ourselves-directly) even if perhaps there is still “some other” groups of theist who still are hurting some “other peoples” lives badly
It matters because there is still so many “other” lives “still” being ruined
The last lost sheep really does matter remember (Matthew 18:12–14) (Luke 15:3–7)
Because its still up in the air as to what this book actually is.Some folks are still forced to live a life that can feel like hell on earth
We (human) will care to remember Azac (New Zealand Army Corps) every year without fail. Religiously
And yet so few care to ever remember all those folk who were burned at the stake (because un-thoughtful people had-chosen to promote a holy book as inspired by God.When it wasn’t)
Now so few also care about the amount of folks still continuing to suffer today (and main reason it only continue to happen is because this situation has not yet been dealt with properly) because of this un-thoughtfulness
People like Fisherman, are some of the first people to step up to say … Hey … lets not bother to worry ourselves too much over it… Why does it need to matter ?
It matters .It really needs to
Just as this book was first pushed to be widely promoted as being inspired word of God (by un-thoughtful Christians)
Likewise , now there also need to be another push ,now too (but by thoughtful kind Jesus followers), so as to make bloody sure,that more folk will begin to realize, it very likely isn’t inspired word of God after all
Or otherwise blood is also on the hands of all those who wont care enough to help do so
You don’t get to absolve yourselves of any blame. By simply saying, well see how “me and my own church friends” don’t happen to hurt anyone personally themselves
While children are still being born into this religious tyranny
If you feel you don’t agree (with me). First consider what i say directly below
If the man next door were raping his wife. Does this then allow you to turn a blind eye, and declare well i’m not personally to blame at all , i say this because you-see how its not me who’s personally involved in doing the rapists-act ?
You are still partly to blame (yourself) if you wont care to take your own action to act against the ability of this rapists action
If hell exist.You bet it’s also going to have plenty of complacent mainstream christian folk roasting within
As these folk are the smug faced fools who have all stood by while other children were being born into religious tyranny
Born into a hell on earth