Dont accept that the bible is inerrant

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Peter
As I understand it you are arguing that people who believe that the bible is the inerrant word of God have a closed mind
Maybe I am missing something but it seems to me that if I press the belief that I dont accept that the bible is inerrant then I would also be guilty of having a closed mind. A bit like the kettle calling the pot black?

 

http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1244&start=50

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Humbled is missing something.In fact Humbled is missing a whole lot of things . Kind of like someone standing in front of a whole herd of elephant,while then still saying that he still hadn’t even notice a thing?

Look at this list here

Bible Inconsistencies – Bible Contradictions? https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html

If you look further at this site, you’ll see how they have also listed

Bible Atrocities

Bible Precepts: Questionable Guidelines?

Bible Vulgarities

as well

Now theists can perhaps rightfully argue “the details” in regards to certain issues.Argue (split hairs) about what is in fact wrong and what’s still right.And yet theist would still be pretty had pressed to argue that the whole bible is inerrant 

Add to that the fact that believers are still being forced to need to “cherry pick” in reagrds to their decision about what they may feel they may believe is right, or wrong

This is the large elephant what Humbled is missing

Then to top this off. Even Jesus must have also felt that a number of things recorded within the old holy book (old testament. IE which was also supposedly inspired from God as well too) was errant

Like for instance “eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, Exodus 21:24

So the idea of inerrancy does not stack-up, it seem like it’s an idea that’s not able to be defended

 

So no. There’s no ground here, for Humbled to declare “kettle calling pot black”

This is a miscalculation. A gross miscalculation that Jesus wouldn’t be likely to even agree with

Is Humbled (by forum nameactually humbled enough (by nature) to see-it ?

Meanwhile, earlier other folks on wikepeebia said

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fisherman    Tue Sep 26, 2017 3:25 pm

Like many ‘issues’ I fail to understand why anybody fights over it,much less breaks a church up over it…fact is,like many things,we just don’t know.In my opinion,time would be better spent taking a pot of soup to a shut in than ‘armchair theology’

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In other word.Fisherman seem to be promoting this idea ?

Who cares if its wrong. Why should we care if these scripture are not quite actually inspired word of God after all ?. Who need to care, that so many people might have been burned at the stake in times past because of it ?. Why should we need to really care now about it either(so long as we don’t hurt anyone ourselves-directly) even if perhaps there is still “some other” groups of theist who still are hurting some “other peoples” lives badly

It matters because there is still so many “other” lives “still” being ruined

The last lost sheep really does matter remember (Matthew 18:12–14) (Luke 15:3–7)

Because its still up in the air as to what this book actually is.Some folks are still forced to live a life that can feel like hell on earth

We (human) will care to remember Azac (New Zealand Army Corps) every year without fail. Religiously

And yet so few care to ever remember all those folk who were burned at the stake (because un-thoughtful people had-chosen to promote a holy book as inspired by God.When it wasn’t)

Now so few also care about the amount of folks still continuing to suffer today (and main reason it only continue to happen is because this situation has not yet been dealt with properly) because of this un-thoughtfulness

People like Fisherman, are some of the first people to step up to say … Hey … lets not bother to worry ourselves too much over it… Why does it need to matter ?

It matters .It really needs to

Just as this book was first pushed to be widely promoted as being inspired word of God (by un-thoughtful Christians)

Likewise , now there also need to be another push ,now too (but by thoughtful kind Jesus followers), so as to make bloody sure,that more folk will begin to realize, it very likely isn’t inspired word of God after all

Or otherwise blood is also on the hands of all those who wont care enough to help do so

You don’t get to absolve yourselves of any blame. By simply saying, well see how “me and my own church friends” don’t happen to hurt anyone personally themselves

While children are still  being born into this religious tyranny

If you feel you don’t agree (with me). First consider what i say directly below

If the man next door were raping his wife. Does this then allow you to turn a blind eye, and declare well i’m not personally to blame at all , i say this because you-see how its not me who’s personally involved in doing the rapists-act ?

No

You are still partly to blame (yourself) if you wont care to take your own action to act against the ability of this rapists action

If hell exist.You bet it’s also going to have plenty of complacent mainstream christian folk roasting within

As these folk are the smug faced fools who have all stood by while other children were being born into religious tyranny

Born into a hell on earth

About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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