Perhaps Francis Chan falls for his own trap?



Interesting to watch through these two video.Interesting to see the cognitive dissonance on display here. In the second video, notice how Chan talks about not wanting to preach whats popular .

Does Chan understand, that the bible is made up of books of what were more or less considered to be most popular  by early Church fathers ?(more or less men whom were prominent Church elders of those times long ago) .

See here for a little information on how it happen

Many Christian think of whats in the bible, as it being the word of God .How would they know that for sure?. They act as if human were not involved,even one slightest bit,in regard to whats been included in the bible .Or what was left out. This is why they will say, whats in the bible is in fact word of God.

Yet they have absolutely no way to know this for sure ?

Do they

In effect Christians of today, are putting their faith in  (guess work)decision made by church father’s (Church elders)and what not from times past (IE:mere mortal men)

Preachers constantly warn from pulpits,today, of the danger of anyone putting faith in men.Discuss how important it is to put faith in God

Yet it was still men whom had sat down together and decided which books would end up being included within the bible . And which books wouldn’t be included. It was human choice.

So.As if any Christian can ever actually fully escape the threat (of placing faith in men) ?

Christians get so caught up within fear.Carried away in it. They then fail to be able to think all these other things through?


So,what if it ends up, that God decide to roast Chans butt, because Chan’s been busily promoting a book, as being word of God, when perhaps it might not even be word of God after all ?

I wonder if Chan had ever even stop to consider the possibility of that ? (while he’s been preoccupied with busily warning everyone else to be careful)

The whole idea that some God is bound to punish people, for an eternity, due to believing the wrong thing. When in actual fact we human are forced to need to revert to a whole heap of guess work, anyway . As we have little other choice  

Is crazy ?

Even if its correct. Who would worship this nasty being ? . Just because some being is all powerful, that still doesn’t help make that being morally righteous ?

Does it?

You might just as well decide to have also fell down on your knees,begged for mercy an worshiped Hitler too?.Right?. After all, at the time,in a way Hitler also was fairly all powerful  too .

So.Just because a being is powerful. Is still no good reason to see this being as also morally worthwhile for our worship


Christian give little consideration to this matter. They don’t care less about moral aspect. Their main focus , in life,is how to save their own butt. Sadly so much so,they will even disown their own flesh and blood too. Discard them and leave them for dead

So sad

Yet this is the power of this level of fear .This form of lowly gutlessness

In times past this form of lowly gutlessness was behind the cause of reason why people were being burned at the stake. People were so preoccupied with ways to go about saving their own skin for eternity. That these feeble minded human beings,then would even sit and watch other human being burned alive at the stake

How sick is that ?

This is what this level of fear can do to people. They become more like animals. Packs of animal most concerned about their own survival

Chances are there is no heaven of hell. But whats even way worse ,is the high possibility there will also be absolutely no justice or compensation either ,for all those poor human being, whom have already suffered immense pain when being burned alive at the stake

How sick is that? (no justice,and no eternity either)

Today there are billion of Christian whom still remain most preoccupied with trying to save themselves eternally

Few even bother to stop and  consider the human cost of this salvation so called salvation

Too preoccupied with being focused on thoughts of saving themselves

Consider this

Even if God is intent on punishing me eternally . At least i can still say that i wasn’t preoccupied with saving myself .

Am i right to care about other people?. People forced to experience immense pain,due to other people faith

Many people were happy to crawl up to Hitler too. Because he was powerful. And because he had also held the power to decide to kill them. Many had watched while million of Jews were being exterminated. Many remain preoccupied with saving their own skins.Due to fear of death

The same way that million of Christian also do

Love casts out all fear ?


This then help to explain, why their were still some people, whom unlike the usual human run of the mill, had still remain most preoccupied with their own acts of kindness in trying to help save others  (with little concern for their own fate)

Because real love can still help us to overcome fear




About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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