I feel, perhaps the question could changed around to read like this: Why would former slaves, have interest in slavery of what they are no longer enslave within themselves
If we check out the list of people involved in the anti slavery movement , say through this link here https://www.biographyonline.net/humanitarian/anti-slavery-movement.html
We can see how a number of former slaves are also listed .The list shows too, that there were also people with different opinions
Ian Mckay commented on the idea that, a good case could be made for having a page in which current Brethren and Ex-Brethren can all participate in the interests of promoting mutual understanding.
I agree.And i wonder if perhaps not all brethren that may try to join in, are only acting with malicious intent?.Or they might start out that way, but even so its the nature of human, that doesn’t necessarily always mean they’ll remain set with those intention forevermore.As a number of of ex eb, had once upon a time also been people who were opposed to apostasy themselves beforehand.Some even quite forcefully so too.Yet some changed their view.Now remain ex eb themselves
If i was ever going to vote for anyone to take part as moderator,in forum with mixed member discussion,or as one of the moderators.I’d more than happily vote Ian for a part in the role.Although perhaps he might not want that role,or fairly liking is already way busy.Ian is usually pretty fair.And/or even the lovely kind well known lady named Joan .Mind you,the present moderators are also too.Which is wonderful.I’m surprised and impressed
When people attempted to abolish slavery.It was no easy road.That’s why the link above stated
Not all the people necessarily shared the same views on the immediate emancipation of slaves. But, they played differing roles in bringing an end to the practice of slavery.
end quote (my bold)
One interesting and courageous impressive woman,was named Sojourner Truth.See here https://www.biographyonline.net/women/sojourner-truth-biography.html
Born to slave parents,in similar same way what most of us ex eb ,were also born to eb parents.But she became restless for freedom like what we also did,and couldn’t wait around until freedom came to her.So she escaped,somewhat similar to like what how a number of us ex eb also have escaped too.
Even although some people might not like to entertain the idea of similarity between slavery, and so called freedom of religion (religious liberty).I’d argue that the difference isn’t so great. Think about this
When Sojourner Truth escaped.She had escaped herself,but yet had had to have left her five-year-old son, Peter behind. Who was sold on to other slave owners, in Alabama where slavery was still deeply embedded, for some time longer after slavery was already abolished elsewhere
Sounding somewhat familiar? (IE: cult leavers may also be forced to need to leave the wife and children behind too ?)
Freedom of religion, could be described as being like slavery was. Because even with slavery, there was a negative form (bullshit form) of freedom , also available.Freedom if you were lucky enough that certain situation might have allowed that it might happen for you
Slaves never faced any easy road in their struggle for true freedom. The struggle still isn’t totally finished today as yet either
Sadly that’s the real world
Real world includes a struggle . Nature of this real world require our resilience.
Kia kaha !
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Isaiah 1:18
Ahh, kei te pai ! ,time now for us all to korero ….. Amene
Im an atheist, but yet i still see plenty of value in bible philosophy.Those human were learning about life, the same way we all still do continue to learn, ourselves today
Cults are full of nice people. People who are still enslaved, within a misguided system, like what we all once were , and in fact, in other ways, still are (IE: racialism,sexism and so on )
Even really really nice people can be misguided .We need to remember?.And still try be forgiving,as best we can. Even although that doesn’t mean we’d need to
forget suppress our pain and suffering?.Pain and suffering is real.It still continues to hurt today.Still all a part of the real world
Sure there are also some really bad eggs. But there’s always the few real rotten eggs, sitting around somewhere in the chicken coop .That’s the real world
The real world doesn’t necessarily need to remain forevermore like what it is today.We still need to make a start somewhere.Sure it may never be perfect.I doubt it ever will be. But even so, that need not stop us from actively trying to make it better.As best we can
It might sometimes seem like we have made no progress. But that’s just because we long for real true freedom . The same way that slaves did. The same way that people who experience racism,still do today
Longing can upset people. Make them get angry. Make them attack.Make them sad.Cause them to need to experience loads of aspect of family dysfunction . Mental issues. Suicide even sadly sometimes
But these things should be taken on board as what will help inspire us all, to keep on going. Keep on fighting. Keep on with the discussion.Keep on beseeching the general citizen, who are not effected by racism,sexism or cults or other, to care about others
People who experience racism and so on, and ourselves who are experiencing religious tyranny, are basically all others
I have a dream
Justice can roll down like water .Through solidarity
Kia kaha too, to the oppressed nice people of Gloriavale. We stand in solidarity alongside you sharing our aroha (love) together for one and other . Let the chains that had bound us in religious forms of tyranny, now bind us together for future good of all people
Let freedom reign