Another cult trys to deny effect of religious tyranny

Interesting to note, that one method being used ,once again, to try and deny any use of tyranny , is


Grace Road, which says it is not a cult, denies any connection between the man’s death and any alleged beating.

“If the man indeed died from being beaten hundreds of times, would his wife, his son, his daughter-in-law, and his grandchildren stay happily in the church that supposedly beat their husband and father?” the church said in a statement.

end quote (my bold)

For sure they quite possibly could would do. This denial-claim, is kind of like someone saying, “would any people ever be likely to follow Hitler, if some of their own family members, might experience being harmed ”

We have miles of evidence , available ,to suggest how plenty of times humans will happily watch their own family being harmed, if in fact they figure it might then also help themselves to save their own butt, from harm ,somehow


And religion, is able to help inspire extreme fear phobia . So much so, that plenty of theist, right throughout the ages, have constantly even been fully prepared to lie . Considering this deceitful type tactic as ,being like a type of white-lie that in turn would then help serve for the greater good

Disgusting thought to accept, but yet sadly none the less, too often true.

As someone who feels somewhat drawn, to clan kinship, of times past. Who has also experienced, the lowliness within aspects of the way family, nowadays, will easily dismiss family bond, to serve to save their own skin. These act, feel repulsive (to me). Even when i were young (less than 5), the feeling of how we could disown members of our own flesh and blood (pretty much as if like,they were already dead), with such great ease, had felt so repulsive, to me, that i had even dared to actively resist it. Making demand ,we wouldn’t do so. Shedding tears and displaying my own anger ,when realizing how i was totally powerless, to stop it from happening. And because, of how it had felt so unnatural 

Christianity faith, many times, was also based on the same line of argument as well too. The argument more or less along the line that went something similar to this, “why would people back in the time of Jesus, have died for their faith, unless in fact the resurrection had actually been personally observed (by themselves) to have in fact  occurred” .

The truth is, that the level of fear phobia of what can be inspired through indoctrination of religious faith, can easily render the human beings mind, into a state of extreme fear , where by human beings will then quite willingly lie, and die , when “believing” that that act(of lying) may serve to help save themselves , from harm long term

No question about it. Still happens , all too often, even today in these modern times too. Or what else, would help to explain situations such as Jonestown? . Or  Branch Davidians sect ? . And plenty more other ongoing situation similar too, all of which also are harboured under the pretence that it constitute religious liberty . Often involving ruined lives of young children that happen to get killed murdered along the way during the process

Sadly this is how low theist seem happy to sit, while upholding this deceit of so called religious liberty, of what at best, often only amount to negative form of  liberty  (IE: relying on aspect of luck)

There is little reason to expect sincerity from theist quarter (as far as i feel i’ve more often observed, anyway) .Unless perhaps it be, about, sincerity of fear in connection with matters of preserving their own life, eternally

Brethren are extremely sincere in their act of more than happily constantly telling white lies, in regard to faith abuse, or sex abuse and so on .

Right ?

Or  even in connection as to whether their groups name would be best described as being known as Exclusive Brethren, or Plymouth brethren

Few will ever lose much sleep over it ? (white lies)

And so what good reason, is there, to expect that perhaps the theist back in ancient times, when Jesus had existed, might have been all so very different ?

I don’t understand any good reason to really expect so

In those ancient times, the human mind ,would have also been still easily been inspired to more than happily lie, if need be , whenever being overcome by aspect of extremely fearful phobia


I see no decent reason, to consider it wont have happened

Below is another video that display similar type evidence as what the Grace road church ,tries to deny

Why would people still even bother to deny it happens ?



About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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2 Responses to Another cult trys to deny effect of religious tyranny

  1. 정홍석 says:


    The Biblical Answers about Pastor shin ok joo

    Grace road church have seen,heard,believed.
    acted according to the Bible

    • ExEB says:

      Welcome,thanks for comment. And link to the blog
      I notice that it was stated on the blog, that
      Quote: Grace Road Church’s Reverend Esther Shin has been interpreting the scripture with scripture. She was the only one to state that the mysteries of the Kingdom of God can only be revealed by interpreting the entire bible from Genesis to Revelation as one whole”

      My first question is this.What evidence do you have to prove claim that in fact Reverend Esther Shin “was the only one” to state that?

      Has this claim “been substantiated” via use of any kind of peer review type method? (so as to therefore help lower the subjective nature, of such claims, being made by human beings)

      I feel sure there will have been billions of people who also thought the same thing too. And would have attempted to do it.They’ll also interpreted the bible in ways whatever they end up doing .

      That’s why conclusion remain “subjective” in value. As its always still ultimately human brains what’s being used in this process, so as to “interpret”

      There’s always a whole lot of guess work going on

      There’s no way to escape that?

      All styles of cult follower, are just as easily convinced as you seem to be, that its only their own leader, who’s the one who’s got anything extra special

      That happen plenty of times. Millions of times

      The real question is. Do these claim stand up to closer scrutiny?

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