Caught between a rock and a hard place

Quote :

I want you to imagine

end quote

Little need, for so many ex cult members, to have any extra need to try to imagine any of this kind of cult antic.

Is there?

No . Most of us are already very mindfully well aware, of use of all these similar manipulative kind of tactic .We are well aware of it

Lack of awareness ,in this regard ,is not the real problem here.Is it?. As obviously,most ex members, of cults, are also all fairly well aware of this issue

So then, what else is there then, that can perhaps help to better explain reason for why ex members are not meeting with requirement being proposed?

I propose that ex members are simply become ill-equipped, with measures, of whats actually needed, so as to help them all then achieve the requirement of goals being proposed here, so as to help fund  this drive to see justice served

Ex members become ill-equipped ,to have decent ability to help themselves, to be able to attend to this proposal

This is the main elephant in the room

Perhaps you might not yet expect to find this observation recorded, as yet, within regular education books being passed back and forth, within universities

Perhaps it might even be so

Even so,id still happily question, any idea, that im any way way-wrong by my act of assuming this “calculated” guess of mine

The alternative is, to consider that perhaps ex cult member are generally some how mostly all become void of their own ability for sense of empathy for others .I doubt that. In fact i feel i see miles of evidence, to help suggest, that maybe empathy is heightened ,by ex cult members own experience of feeling alienated and forgotten and so on

I seriously doubt that ex cult members lack empathy. In fact, a fair number of ex cult members ,will purposely choose to stay interested and involved, for reason that they also fully understand, how many other people, universally worldwide, are being forced to also suffer likewise as well too

So in fact its element of this empathy, of what directly helps to bind the ex cult groups of people together in solidarity

So lack of empathy, is not the elephant in the room here

What ex members of cult do lack, here, is their ability to ALL remain equipped to meet with requirement proposed (specially financially)

This really needs to be considered. Or otherwise there little good that will ever  come ,from assuming wrong conclusion

Right ?

Lets face it, fund raisers can choose to bang on and on and on about “please try and fund this” , becoming more blue in the face by the day ,forever and ever an a day, even perhaps as far as until the cows come home.

Still to little avail ?


And simply because, there’s no amount of coaxing, of what will ever actually “help to change” the reality that’s being faced here

Wont alter the main elephant in the room

I dare, anyone to care to prove how i’m so-wrong by my act of declaring this ?

I dare anyone. Anyone here have enough guts, to try to disprove what ive assumed is the main problem here?

I’d love to see it

We are not magician .Even although a number of us can feel frustrated to need to accept how we are absolutely not like a magician  . It’s not as if we enjoy this feeling.We would seriously love to be able to help far more, too. Little doubt about it. So much enjoyment can be gained, for oneself, from being able to be helping others out

In fact ,with some of us, this idea has always been a constant aspiration of ours of what we’d had, and even ever since as far back as we feel like we can even remember back too .This is in fact reality of this situation here

We are in fact, become highly tuned toward empathy toward others

The elephant in the room here, is more to do with the fact that people are not clones. Their lives are not cloned lives either, that work out similar clockwise. Situations vary .Luck can even vary immensely too. All kind of considerations can come into play here. Luck, genetics, and or religion or so many more other factors of life


This situation, should become a valid learning curve for ex cult members to finally begin to heed this time around ?.

Just all just try to imagine, ourselves, the feelings of pressure and suffering, of like what a non scientist might experience?

Bad enough, to need to be a well-educated person being faced with feeling  pressure of coming under attack by powerful . Now try to imagine too, how a un educated person might otherwise begin to feel themselves. Sense of hopelessness what might face them

My point is. For a number of differing reason, many ex cult members are simply become ill-equipped, to be able to front up with what’s being proposed here

This is simply the stark reality of the situation at hand

This is the real main elephant in the room here. This is what need fairly prompt attention too . As without prompt attention, this wont ever change, so much, anytime soon?

This is the elephant in the room here. This is the root cause ,here, of what’s been constantly going wrong

This can even help to explain how a number of suicide have had to happen. When in fact , far better management might have otherwise helped to have made a whole load of difference

I don’t mind assuming that this might in fact be correct

People, for now, are feeling and experiencing, what it feels like, to feel like being caught between a rock and a hard place .Myself included. Id seriously love to feel able to do far more to help out

Only people who are destined to need to fail time again and again and again, would be the kind to also dare, to overlook this elephant?

Quote :

George Santayana. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

Ex cult members ,would do well ,to finally begin to learn way-more, from past experience

  1. Cults are not about to cease with acts of litigation anytime soon
  2. groups of religious people, are unlikely to care to face the reality that freedom of faith, is a myth ,anytime soon either

Therefore it is the responsibility of ex cult members to learn how to create better ways ,in which to then in turn take far better care of all of their own needs ,themselves

This is reality

Not necessarily the nicest reality .To need to be faced with. But still stark reality never the less

Obviously ,there are few theist who’d even actively care to bother to take pity on cult members lot

No use us dwelling on this reality either ?. You can lead a horse to water, but you still wont ever make it choose to drink

Right ?

Far better that ex cult members would unite and face the situation head on, themselves, and then also begin to actively attend to exactly what needs to change here


The time is way overdue ,that ex cult members would begin to unite so as to then also be able to take cults on, at their own game

Time is now already  way long overdue that this would begin to happen

Besides, perhaps God loves people most of all, who can also learn how to help all of themselves ?

That there, would in itself, soon enough become complete total defeat of all these cults, expectation


This highly organized movement ,might then also begin to help serve to highlight the ex cult members plight

Ex cult members main strength could become the way they learn to put aside faith differences, so as to still retain solidarity together


This strength, is a trait of what cults themselves,all have no so little hope of ever achieving ?

Solidarity of love can indeed, help to overcome evil forces








About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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