Did Jesus claim to be God?

The bible is a bit of a mish mash of philosophy. There are contradiction and so on. There is reasons why some Christian groups do prefer that their congregation wouldn’t go to university, or through bible college .

Christianity has been served well (financially), by having a congregation, of what follows by faith

Check out this interesting blog post

8 Things Your Pastor Will Never Tell You About the Bible

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2014/09/29/8-things-your-pastor-will-never-tell-you-about-the-bible/

Notice that part way down the page it says

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3) Jesus Tells Everyone Not to Think of Him as God in the First Three Gospels

The Gospel of John shows Jesus saying he is divine — again and again. But nowhere in the gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke, widely acknowledged to have been written before John and thus closer to the events they describe, does Jesus claim to be a deity.

In fact, all of those first three gospels show Jesus scoldingly saying that he should never be thought of as God. Mark 10:18 depicts Jesus as saying, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.” Obviously, he took offense at the mere thought that he might be considered to have the same righteousness as God. He is shown making the same point in Luke 18:19 and Matthew 19:17.

 

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So in three gospels (Mark, Luke and Matthew), Jesus is depicted as scolding people, for thinking about him as if he is God

And those three Gospel, were ALL written before the gospel of John was

That’s fairly interesting to think about then right ?

Consider that. Then also consider this verse as well too

My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? (Matthew 27:46)

Who the heck was Jesus “talking to” then?. Was he “talking to himself” ? (IE: as God)

This verse also seem to be posed, as if in fact Jesus didn’t even consider himself, as being God

Right?

Then think about this verse as well

Quote :

But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. (Mark 13:32)

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If Jesus was in fact also-God, then why wouldn’t Jesus have been able to know the exact time when God (IE: Jesus) would in fact be likely to return again to earth , for judgement day (Revelation)

Why not ? (If Jesus was/is God, then obviously God/Jesus should also have had ability to actually know)

Ive questioned certain Christian about this question before too, and because they cannot think of any better answer, they try and offer the answer that Jesus ,at that particular time, was really only at stage of being like a semi-God

Really a semi-God ?

What next ,there’s Thor and all other kind of demi semi Gods as well too?

Whatever

Its as if the Christian already have so much pre-invested within their faith belief, that they’ll be willing to accept any old explanation they can still try and conjure up

I wonder why bother ?

When in fact there is a number of other scripture of what seem to also already point out, that perhaps Jesus was against himself being referred to, as being God

And beside, Jesus was evidently even observed to be actively asking God, why God had forsaken him

So then, why not adopt some good sense ? (Occam’s razor)

I note how there are Christian who act as if they feel sorry for atheists

Lately there was an ex eb Christian, who stated (to an ex eb agnostic/atheist)

Quote:

I know. (I hope this comes across the right way) Although I feel sadness at your situation, in a way I also understand. If it wasn’t for a powerful sense of a “relationship” with God & His Word, there were plenty of times when we had become so disillusioned, disheartened & often confused by peeb dogma that we had our faith seriously undermined & damaged.

Thinking about it, that is a shocking thing to realise, that a supposed Christian Church (assembly) can damage a person’s faith in Christ !

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Sadness at the atheist situation?

WTF?

Why should an atheist have reason to feel so-bad ?

Should Jesus, have also had any good reason, for himself to have need to feel bad, himself, too?

My point is, that quite possibly, there has never ever been any kind of obvious evidence that a-God actually exists

Think about it

Jesus had felt  disillusioned , disheartened and confused himself also too

Correct?

So its really no big-deal then right

So therefore i wouldn’t be to quick to be looking down on atheists. As if they should be the people who should be felt sorry for ?

There is philosophy that states

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall. (Proverbs 16:18)

Who knows.Perhaps it might be Christians who are in for a big shock?

Who can say for sure

What if in fact a-God doesn’t actually even exist. What then?. Who will then need to be the ones to hurry up and get going and pull their finger out an help to actually begin to fix, the very dire situation, of like what this world has become ?

Perhaps humans will need to pay far more attention to things like global warming, and environmental destruction, and greed and wastage of earths resources, and capitalism

Correct?

Because up until now, there have been immense amounts of believers who have always banked on the idea that a-God can always step-in ,and help fix up humans mess ?

Partly because, those faith belief had worked in well , for human greed and their acts of capitalism 

Correct?

But then perhaps

Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before the fall (proverbs 16:18)

Who knows ?

I’d say one thing we can say for certain, being an atheist isn’t necessarily the very worst thing that a human could be. Questioning as to whether a-God even exist, is always been somewhat common among human

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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