Woe to those who call evil good and good evil


How terrible it will be for those who call evil good and good evil, who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, who substitute what is bitter for what is sweet and what is sweet for what is bitter!”


end quote

Interesting thought . Check out the link what i posted above, it includes all the different translation, and interesting cross references as well too

I suspect that this may will have been occurring for ages.People will have promoted good as being bad, and bad as being good.

Even within what we now consider understand to be bible scripture too. Scripture like, the command about stoning our children to death, for their act of daring to question their parents views and ideas. IE: this is evidence of a situation/instance where by evil was being called good

In other words there is/was bad forces at play within bible scripture

Or scripture that would promote sexism , and then even proceed to try to make it help seem righteous by adding tit-bits things, like command that husbands would lay down their own lives, for their wife.

As if that was something totally amazing?. Out of the ordinary?

Human should be happy enough to lay down their own life, so as to help save another persons life anyway?. No matter whether it might be either women or man

That’s ultimate love.

And besides, two minds are often far-better than one mind, with regard to making good decisions, so then why not make women to be the equal partner of menfolk?. That’s the way it should be. That’s only fair

And it would even make far better sense? (two minds are better than one)

The bible is splattered with all kinds of questionable verses of what have been able to have infiltrated  what is otherwise sound philosophy, and therefore have then helped to cause confusion

Why/how would it cause confusion?

Because unmindful human have been coerced in believing that everything contained within the bible, must be good. Must have been inspired by God. People have been led to fear scepticism.

Even the idea that humans were not supposed to eat of the tree of knowledge, seems suspect. What’s so wrong about gaining knowledge, so long as its been used toward things good?. Without knowledge/ higher awareness ,human might have perhaps remain more minded like animal beings are, live only in similar ways like what tigers or lions live like, of what may “think little” about killing prey for fun . IE: human might not have evolved any sense of deeper awareness of what in turn might help human to become different to animal, specially in regard of moral awareness .

Knowledge can be used toward good. Why had God even allow the snake to enter into the garden anyway, unless perhaps knowledge was supposed to occur. What if the deceitful one was perhaps instead the one angry about human gaining access to knowledge?. How do we figure it out, for sure?

We are forced to be open-minded. To learn to actually use the brain what we have. We would be unwise to take it for granted ,to think that no aspect of evil or deceitfulness had tried to even infiltrate holy scripture

It’s as possible that it might have occurred within generations gone past. As it is still possible today, that it can happen that evil and deceitfulness can find ways to creep in

This knowledge then at least should awaken us to allow ourselves to become somewhat sceptical. Scepticism at least will then also help to awaken human mind, so that human minds are then less inclined to be sheeple  

This is highly important?

Our world is severely lacking the sense of scepticism of what in turn can actually then help to diminish sheeple minded humanity

Why don’t Christian think about these things more . That’s what i wonder about. Puzzle over. Sometimes seems, to me,  that unless there is someone who feels bold enough (an open minded theist perhaps or an atheist ) to push these question out there, then it generally wont stand much of a chance, of ever happening. It’s as if its far easier, and less physically draining, for theist to not need to think about it, too much. (not only theist either. However theist are suppose to help act as good role models, for the rest)

That could be dangerous practice perhaps though?

I suspect its partly due to their inner fear (coupled with laziness). Fear of death. Their greed for eternal life at any cost . This is what comatose the people’s ability to think outside the square.

Human become so focused on gaining eternal life for themselves. They then don’t even mind one bit, to need to worship a type of unloving God of what’s hell-bent on gaining revenge and full of wrath and fire and brim stone.

Many wont even think twice about it either


Those human with their minds so-comatose through fear, wont even think twice about their acts of doing so

This brings us back to re-consider this scripture ,quote:

How terrible it will be for those who call evil good and good evil, who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness, who substitute what is bitter for what is sweet and what is sweet for what is bitter!”

end quote

How can people be sure, while they would also remain far too fearful to dare even question it?

And yet

Within the background of these people’s heart they will still  feel  something could be amiss,and therefore will also quietly understand that this immense indecency of what they have feebly agreed to take part in, is wrong

But the greed for their own eternal life remain  so strong

So strong, the human mind will then fail to heed the moral question of what well-up and arise within. The inner FEELING  what speaks out from within. However the power of traditional indoctrination  often acquired through birth right still washes over them. Drowning moral knowledge of what might otherwise have had far better chance come to the surface, so as to shine through

Shine through, and force them to re-consider. Bring them to think deeply ,and ponder, and therefore to not be led like sheep

Such is the depth of darkness within legality of unforgiving nature what far too often thrives when void of love

Love is like light


Our countries are all lost deep within a very great grave state of darkness right now. The suffering is widespread and immense, even although we often choose to deny it, so as to allow ourselves to just look right on past it within our comfortable lazy state of indifference . Without paying it any real attention. While minds of people have been made comatose through their own selfish inner fear of death, meanwhile our whole planet has still been steadily rendered death bound through greed of wealth and power and immense suffering

Love has ability to cast out darkness of what include human stupidity.

But alas

Sadly love has been able to be overcome BY darkness of feeble minds hell bent on preaching a God of revenge and jealousy and hate and violence

For this is the outcome of human unbridled greed for their own eternal life

We know very well how this is correct ?

We learned about it well, already ourselves, through our own life experience, as ex CULT members. We did right?. We all felt the feelings of life long pain and suffering caused unto us all by YEARS of shunning and excommunication ALL of what is actually foundered on human selfish greed of gaining eternal life for themselves



At heart we can now all ALL feel how very wrong this type of greed is . Correct?. If we could learn how to be more bluntly honest with ourselves, we would need to admit that words of what we read with use of our eyes, can still be able to easily deceive us.

Specially so within situations where by evil human may have meddled so as alter stories to deceive us for their own gain

And yet, even a physically blind human still has a way to feel and therefore to also decipher the knowledge of righteousness in regard of difference between right and wrong

Love can be used for purpose of becoming the third eye of human being ( IE spiritual sense of guidance)

The blind human will even have ways to know (knowledge) of righteousness, from wrong


Think about that. If God exist, then obviously God will understand how some people are physically blind. So therefore God would also understand, that even blind human will obviously still need to have an ability in which to decipher good from bad, by themselves (so as to not need to be deceived by anyone else).


If love is light, and if love is in some connection to human heart, then even a physically blind human will then still have an innate ability (IE: a sense)to BE ABLE to decipher good from bad, for themselves

Wonderful thing that is?

This type of sense of knowledge doesn’t require use of the eyesight. Does it


It wont even matter one bit, either, if in fact deceitful people might have altered holy scripture


As fact is,you can often decipher right from wrong, by simply being acutely aware of feeling 

So why then do human rely so much on scripture


Fear is the foundation of this ignorance (in my opinion). This morally blind stupidity.

I feel that Jesus would have tried to forewarn us people too. Being the wise person he was.Likely through use of parable.

If God is love. And love is light. And if love cast out all fear. Then we have surely been led right up the garden path then.

Haven’t we?.

Been deceived into following deep darkness . An evil so huge that its even been able to disguise itself as if it were good 

This is how great the depth of this evil is

There is scripture what discusses signs of the last days. However, sadly the pride within religious groups has remained so strong. The real roots of the problem has been overlooked

Lack of love is the foundation of too much human blindness

Lack of love has led human to greed of power and for wealth. The depth of suffering of what now stems from this is destructively immense. Over the generations has grown past servitude, poverty and homelessness and violence and bad health. Onward even toward mega levels pollution and environmental destruction, to the extent of what now even threatens the most wealthy human beings also as well too

Think about that

Now  even the WEALTHY PEOPLE  are caught out like sitting-duck right up shit creek, now, in dire trouble, without a decent enough paddle to help get themselves quickly back out of harms way

Due to outcome of greed , DISREGARD FOR LOVE, and the depth of ignorance and stupidity of what stems from this


Even worse. It’s the HIGHLY EDUCATED  wealthy people as well too, whom are now also among us all whom are faced with the price of this level of IGNORANCE

Say what?

How could it have ever happen to end up like this ,if there were highly educated people ACTIVELY involved right within the mix of these things ?

How come?

Comes back to lack of love.; Lack of love what can in turn create pride and bigotry

You’d have thought perhaps at least the highly educated might have been busily warning everyone far earlier, before now?

Those EDUCATED folks were taught how to read words and study and learned how to pass exams and so on. Correct ?

Then how come humanity is still managed to have ended up making a complete mess of the situation like what we now are ALL faced with

Love matters big time

My opinion is this. Education isn’t always the be all end all of pathway to knowledge. Is it. Formal education doesn’t necessarily teach human beings how to think outside the square, or even about how to actually act intelligently . Does it?. Perhaps too often it may work to help to stifle this innate ability

What deepen this issue, is the problem there is in our society, within the way that high education and pride have been closely connected way further than is been healthy. What happen is education is put so high up on a pedestal, that then the educated can become too prideful to care to listen to view held by any of the less educated human beings

Today with the way that environmental destruction is come back to suddenly begin to bite us ALL now, we are about to begin to learn things the hard way around, from this lesson

Nobody can say that human hadn’t had ability to have been able to already learn about environmental conservation ,previously way earlier before now?

We had. The main problem was with the way that we then went ahead and chose to disregard the knowledge. Very often through blatant ignorance of choosing to disregard the knowledge learned by less informal educated First Nation people too

Pride comes before the fall (so the saying goes)

First Nation people certainly didn’t require scholarly books , before having ability to begin to understand value of nature

Did they?

Those kind of knowledge are even still able to be learned by physically blind human beings too. More than anything, it requires human to simply let the element of love to help light up the pathway. Love even helps open the pathway to allow acceptance of views of people who may happen to be less formally educated too . Correct?

At the end of the day, these modern day lesson, will have been learned through the hard way. Maybe the hard way around, was the only way it would ever be possible


Note: for anyone wondering why an agnostic atheist might quote scripture . My view of scripture, is that it amount to philosophy. So i still easily see plenty of value in scripture






About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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