Lets be bothered to have our say about charity tax legislation

Some people seem driven to try to shut down the conversation. Don’t they ?

We will see them on social media site, where ex members of cult will come together to discuss their experiences. Telling the ex cult members, to either move on and shut up about their cult experiences, or else just go back and return to the cult what they left (as if everything is always black and white ,and so therefore should only ever need to be two option, available?).

One thing noticeable about these folk is we’ll never see them set-out a argument to reason  and explain why their own idea might in fact be a good the best one. The don’t explain why their idea has any real merit

Why is that

Perhaps because they can’t really figure out why?. Or perhaps they wouldn’t even know how to formulate their reason why. Truth be known, perhaps they never even really thought all that much about their own particular “reasons why” they chose that way in which to act, themselves, in regards to exactly why they’d chosen to do things the way in which they did do. They just did it?. Like a robot. Kind of bumble their way along, and just kind of live and “hope for the best” to happen (happen out of thin air, as if it might some how be able to happen, as if by magic). Perhap still wont even bother to think about it all much about any of it then either, even when it actually doesnt work out how they had “hoped” it might


Back in times of Aberdeen,within the exclusive brethren church congregation while James Taylor jr was acting up

for sure with little doubt there would have been a number of these people, all sitting “quietly” there among the brethren congregation in church. Saying nothing . While figuring themselves to be the “real bee knees” of example how they figure all humanity should all have need to be like.

Who knows, what their own reasoning was?. Who knows why they chose to act that way ?. Hell, perhaps those folk couldn’t even explain the reason-why, to any of themselves either, in regard of figuring-out exactly why they had chosen to act that way they did, themselves. They just did so?. Like mindless robots. As well as not really BOTHERING to even “wonder why” things had went wrong?. When things did indeed go wrong.  Haaaaaaa


Chances are they were type of people who never bother to think about anything all that much at all anyway, all that often. But hey that’s just their own way how they choose to exist

Different strokes for different folks

But anyway, thankfully human are different.Our world is a colourful world. Not all people are the same,kind of like what a bunch of clones would be like.There are other people around who do in fact, care to bother, and do wish to continue to discuss matters more. To share experiences. And are interested enough to bother

The time has arrived, again, for further discussion to happen in regard of “public views on charity legislation”


Government seeks public views on charities legislation

MEDIA RELEASE 22 February 2019

Government seeks public views on charities legislation

The Department of Internal Affairs today launched the government’s public consultation on the Charities Act 2005.

“The Act has been in place for over a decade, and a lot has changed for the more than 27,000 charities operating under the Act,” says Raj Krishnan, General Manager Policy.

“Charities play a vital role in supporting the wellbeing of people and communities throughout New Zealand. Public feedback gives us a chance to hear what needs improving so charities can continue to thrive and make a difference.”

“An effective Act will help ensure that our charities sector is as impactful as possible and enjoys the public’s trust and confidence.”

A discussion document published on the Department of Internal Affairs’ website today will enable charities and members of the public to have their say on a range of issues on modernising the Act.

“We welcome public discussion on issues such as improving the appeals process, support for charities to meet their obligations, and the extent to which charities can advocate for their causes. We also want to hear how the Act is working for charities that have Māori kaupapa.”

“Making a written submission is the best way to ensure your views and experiences under the Act are heard.”

Charities and members of the public can read the discussion document online and submit a written response.

Twenty-one community meetings will also be held throughout the country over March and April to support the submission process, where attendees can hear and discuss presentations on the issues and ask questions. The discussion document, information on how to make a submission and registration information for community meetings can be found here: www.dia.govt.nz/charitiesact Public submissions are open until 30 April 2019.



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Here is the link for public submissions http://www.dia.govt.nz/charitiesact 

This is one reason why social networking, which also involves ex members of cults, do have reason to stay in constant contact

To help us stay organized

It is our job to help remind the public, to go have their say too

It is our job to alert the public, about reason why, they might be best to also be sure to “take interest” and go have their say as well


Meanwhile, all us ex cult members can network-together so as to be very sure that we will also ALL  go and have our own say too, in regard of the “feed back” that the Department of Internal affairs requires

So that the internal affairs can get a feed back, that’s “more rounded” feedback

Because lets remember this


We can be very sure that the church groups, and groups of what perhaps might stand to gain from the charity legislation

Wont be forgetting to have their members to put forth their own  feed back

They wont forget?

Few of them people will ever forget to do so

Because they are organized 

Therefore. We ex members OF CULTS, and the citizen of the general public as well too. Will also need to ALL remain somewhat organized, ourselves as well

Or otherwise the internal affairs, or the charity commission, may be led astray . Might be force to need to make their decision-up, from listening only to bias one sided point of view, issued by particular interested groups, some of what might stand to gain most FOR THEIR OWN GREED

Certain groups will choose to continue to misuse the charity tax legislation

While they can . While nobody is bothered-enough to care to remain alert enough to help act like watch dogs


First step is where people experience issues of what become a problem

Discussion, is often the second step, taken, before time when change finally happens

We are now well within the second step

Ex cult members can feel comfort to know that perhaps only around 20 years ago. There was, back then in those times past, absolutely no discussion going on, about this charity legislation issue

Thankfully, now these days SOME progress has ALREADY been made

Our own efforts have PAYED OFF already, and ALREADY helped move this conversation forward, to the second step


Thus far

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About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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