Systemic problem


A systemic problem is a problem due to issues inherent in the overall system,[1][2] rather than due to a specific, individual, isolated factor. Contrast with pilot error, user error, or mistake.

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Cults connect directly to systemic problem

a problem due to issues inherent in the overall system

rather than due to a specific, individual, isolated factor


There is a flaw in the OVERALL system, whenever our governments WILL agree to reward high control group who do extreme harm, through charity status

That’s a flaw in the overall system

If the government will keep on rewarding them. Then naturally, they’ll then be all over the place popping up here and there

Citizen will become familiar with seeing it happen too. Millions, who’ll remain unaffected won’t think anything much of it really either.Which is natural considering how it doesn’t effect themselves as directly as it does others

The flaw is in the overall system. The one what should act more responsible, as a back-stop “check and balance”

Societies , cannot afford to rely on HOPE  that high control group might come to their sense LIKE MAGIC

Wont happen

Hell, the Exclusive Brethren leader buffoon, Bruce Hales couldn’t even MANAGE to get it together enough, so as to run the “review”  so as it might do more good, than what it did harm

Systems are flawed , BADLY, if they’ll CONTINUALLY find it suitable ,to rely ENTIRELY on people like that

To wait on warped dictatorship high control groups , to care

Why would a government rely on it?

The high control group leader, wont OFTEN  be likely have enough empathy , to B OTHER to care ?

Its flaw in OVERALL  SYSTEM, number 2, as well when of systems have faithfully believed they might do?

So much evidence OF BLATANT ABUSE is been readily available

How did our overall system, then react to knowledge of that level of abuse though?

Bury their heads in sand.

Our systems, are almost TRADITIONALLY geared to blunder their ways along ?

There is blundering politician PATIENTLY WAITING on the blundering buffoon cult leaders like Bruce Hales ,(who cant even run a Review decently, without need of causing THE BRETHREN to experience even more disgrace), in FAITHFUL HOPE , that “by SLIM CHANCE”  the cult leader just might still have enough of what it takes, TO FLUKE IT

Meanwhile cults are busily using psychological torture, as a tool of choice to control members. Liked what the news-link report above, so succinctly describes as OBVIOUSLY being in use against the victims involved who were caught up within the mess

Note: the piece what describe how doors were not even locked at all. For years. And yet the captive were STILL FEELING way too fearful, to ever dare try leaving

Flaws are inherent in our overall system?

Why else would society ever see this as being ok?

If this religious liberty laws as they stand, is upholding human freedom of faith.

Then what about a Holocaust type situation then, would that ever be accepted as upholding Jews freedom of life too?

Please take good Note of this


The psychological literature is overwhelmingly united in comparing cult members’ experiences to those of concentration camp survivors and former POWs (Coates, 2010).

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Overall systemic problem

That then even far worse, our government have then even been rewarding them, by STILL issuing them with charity status

Hilarious perhaps, if it wasn’t so dangerous

There is little evidence to suggest, that perhaps high control leaders are worthy of trust put in them by our “government system”, for high control group leader to make the choice themselves, to do what’s morally right

More evidence to suggest they are unworthy of this level of trust of what government system trust them to want to do (perhaps due to the groups religious claim of being believers, who’s intent on doing Gods work)

Government systemic problem


Roots are due to Government negligence?. As its government choosing to place trust, EVEN in groups of what are unworthy of it

Nobodies bothering to do any checks and balances ?

This also help to also explain a WHOLE LOAD  of other BLUNDERS  too of what our government are seen to ALSO make

Checks and balances ,still continue to remain so loose


Sometime there is even absolutely nothing in place

They expect hope for the leader to retain a decent level of moral value

So they might not harm

However high control group leader are more focused on money

As such empathy goes out the window . And by generation by generation (of inbreeding) is finally depleted until completely lost

Plus, too many more, like the above, to list here

Governments have more than enough evidence available?

But haven’t taken action themselves to stem the abuse

Therefore its

Government systemic problem


No good sense in waiting and “hoping for” money hungry high control group leaders , to think of  IDEA OF doing the right thing, in regard of doing what’s morally right

Bruce Hales couldn’t even manage the Brethren view proper and decently  

(a moment in time when Brethren and ex Brethren might have OTHERWISE finally got to reunite together with all of their loss family, again after being devided for most-all of their own generations lifetime apart in excommunication as if they were dead unto each other


Perhaps Bruce Hales were too busy with his main  focus on the money?

Do overly money hungry people ooze empathy or compassion ?

Family member might have spent the last 10 or so year together having fun they had missed out on,for so long?



Our government have faithfully placed their own trust in group hierarchy, of groups, of ones what’s well proved themselves already, to be fairly unworthy of trust?

Government systemic problem

Nobodies been taking care of any checks and balances within these messy bumbling government system

Shame on those people

And long about due time too that they’d change tack?

Whole world perhaps needs to wake up as well

NZ is also generally merely a-part of a whole wider picture of our worlds totally flawed system as a whole

The reaction was, shock and disbelief. And that were already being said, way back then in 1976

Government systemic failure

Or  charity are supposed to be beneficial, or what?




About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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