Appropriate places for controversial discourse

Continuing saga of ex eb squabble , over believer verses non believer views


One comment was


Tam Tambourine It’s right here in the page description: the page is to exchange news, information and reminiscences, and ask questions, and not to debate religious opinion. Many of us have gone through more than enough turmoil in our journey out of the brethren, and just want a peaceful place to connect with others from similar backgrounds, on the basis of what connects us, not what divides us. This is why drama on this page is not received well.
It isn’t that we are taking the soft option or hanging on to EB ways – for example, personally I’m a nonreligious lesbian with leftwing political views – but there are appropriate places for controversial discourse, and this is not one of them.

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But hold on

hold on … whoa hold on … hold on here


Theist on these forum are often the ones constantly commenting on and on about their own view how they’d feel  “God blesses” them . Or God loves us. Or their view how God provides for us. And so on.

So hey

Good luck with the idea of seeing it cease as use as a platform for controversial discourse of religious opinion

Then huh

Good luck with that ever happening?



Lets just watch and see  AND NOTE how it run from here on out then. We can always begin to count and document times whenever forum is continued to be used as a platform for somebodies expression of their own religious opinion ( their own view)

We can take note of that

No problem

Lets also count how many times some Craig Hoyle type decide to step up to the plate, so as to act consistently too


That could be fun

Could be interesting future prospect (to try and stay true to the said intention)

Considering how. This is what will often still happen (I figure)

1.Theist lay the claim that they’d feel God blesses people (or whatever else other faith belief claim it might happen to be, they express. Of which there also are a “fairly long” list of ,of what constantly come up from time to time, regular as clock work)

2. Atheist may will counter theist claim they had made ,by perhaps stating how they’d themselves feel that God is complete waste of time, and a unfortunate joke, and cannot be able to bless anyone considering how a-God also doesn’t even exist outside of theist faith

Both of the above participant above, are both using the forum as a platform 


controversial discourse



Lets see if the Craig Hoyle type ex eb can approach matters consistently ?

That’s what most interesting to me about the situation. The study to see if some form of consistency apply

The thing is, for some ex eb, to imply, that atheism has played “no part” in our eb “past experiences of our previous life” among Brethren.

Is like to try to and deny the existence, of atheist, who had in fact existed silently among Brethren, of who had been also forced to “need to” remain silent, and exist within eb rank .

To suggest atheism plays no part, in ex eb past history

Is to also try to deny that had happen

I figure you’d be pushing shit uphill to try and prove it so?

I can remember, being atheist minded myself, from times of my early youth

The difference problem ALWAYS was, that we atheist minded children, were born into an existence where by we’d then be forced to need to also remain silent, so as to conform to belief of the-others demand

And as if that didn’t cause us “closet atheist” enough turmoil, back then

Same old shit still continue to happen even still so today

Still today they continue to act inconsistently


Theist are still figuring like as if they feel like their own sense of turmoil, is somehow consider of higher valued substance, to what atheist are supposed to be seen like or something?

Who can tell for sure

There is still this same old tendency , to like to “pretend” as if, perhaps platforms may remain “free from any expression” of participant religious “view”

This same old simlar tendency too, to shut certain views down

Simlar tendency to pretend like as if discussion is addressed consistently . Without bias

And so at the end of the day. No great surprises then either. Is there?

That religious “liberty” isn’t really been honestly worth the paper what its been written about on





















About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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