Why I won’t debate those who deny my humanity


Activist Anjum Rahman recounts her experience at a recent media event as a way of examining what’s at stake in the free speech debate.


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It is interesting to note all of what’s at stake . Tricky to do proper justice to doing so thoroughly too?

Having read through all what gets discussed within this fairly recent article (linked to above) . I find myself agreeing with Anjum Rahman in many ways ,while i’d still disagree with her on one or two points

I specially take note of how the struggle of the Maori was mentioned in this article by Anjum Rahman . I agree with so many of the points what she’s pointed out.But at the end of the day, it is “still the very same existence of freedom of speech” even for Maori also too , of what will still help to provide a way forward, so as to retain hope to see improvement

That freedom, perhaps shouldn’t be removed . Or denied

As perhaps that would then allow for a situation (like their situation) to have become completely hopeless ?

Had our colonial government removed NZ citizen right to have freedom of speech. Then perhaps Maori would have then also been denied their own right, to even be able to protest “injustices” themselves as well

Or not?

That’s the strangely interesting paradox type feature, that comes along with territory of freedom of speech. Isn’t it. As it (freedom of speech) can act like a two edged sword.

Personally i don’t see removal of speech, as likelihood of ever honestly being like any real long term “solution” to this problem of unrest here in NZ (or anywhere)

It would only serve to bury the discontent from public view

Rather than having less discussion  (by censoring discussion) . Perhaps instead of that, our government might rather be best to help fast-track matters so as to “foster far more prompt genuine discussion” on subject of interest to Kiwi

Perhaps the main problem has always been, the problem of  prevailing attitude of indifference.

For instance, take the Israel Folau drama . See info here https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/113529927/folau-launches-fresh-attack-on-gay-and-transgender-people 

Rather than censoring the freedom of speech

How about, turning the freedom of speech, into a form of motivation to help cause more Kiwi citizen to take full ownership of interest in this issue. That way fostering citizen who’d take interest and that way also learn how to act less like sheep flocks do. To motivate kiwi to get more of us involved and actively interested to want to get right down to discussion over all nitty gritty details

Even down to discussion of very fine detail of exactly how the bible had came together. To level of fine detail of what can even help PUBLICLY thoroughly explain all the inconsistency and possibility for error and so on

This would then amount to a form positive action? (one of which might also at least then serve to help bridge misinformation gaps)

This action could then help to lesson the impact of “power” of people who’d choose to promote misinformation too?

My point is. Our government ought to be trying-out something completely different to what’s been tried previously before already. Time they now tried something from a brand new approach.

It is citizen indifference in regard of white supremacy , which then allow room for white supremacy to thrive. Same way that citizen indifference toward cult-affect, also allow for exclusive brethren to thrive, as well too

Government could start to do certain pro active things FAR MORE OFTEN themselves, so as to then begin to help to remedy that element of indifference

First off they might start by acting to foster far more public  interest .

If government wont choose to step in themselves. Soon enough, all our children most certainly will begin to step in themselves, so as to do so


Because our children “can generally sense” the importance far easier than what adults do. Our children are already taking charge of matters, themselves, of situation with regard to our environment issues . Correct?


Well plainly because they also can sense how its dangerous to continue to rely on the adults “unconcern” mannerism, to rely that they’ll ever care to do so

Fair enough?

Adults continually prove themselves to be highly sluggish and unreliable in their ability to quickly attend to certain highly important issue of what really do often require far more prompt action

Children are just acting naturally. They will also have their own survival mechanism what will naturally begin to motivate them to “take action”

Human need to widen the scope for discussion










About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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