Israel Folau

Fucked up world when the likes of Isreal Folau type of person and even the Exclusive Brethren type also as well too, would all retain an “extra” ability, to be able to bully their way through .

By method of quickly accumulating an amassing a fairly huge massive fighting fund. Sometimes with it all coming together,  within short period of time over a few days. Of what possibly too often being then used, so as to help “string out” time period of court proceedings and so on, along with all other legal proceedure costs involved as well too (lawyers fees etc)

It doesn’t “seem right” how it can easily happen ?

But yet, although i totally disagree with Israel’s own point of view,i still say that ,i feel, freedom of speech, is a most important right that society would still want to retain , (as much as is possible)

Rather than banning these peoples right to retain freedom of speech. Perhaps we might be better off to (almost) be welcoming to see it , and know better (all of us would then also be able to all become very consciously aware) about all aspect of situation surrounding it

Perhaps the rugby selector could be far better served?

To simply learn more better about how go about taking far better “broad” note of the trimmings and goings on .Begin to be able to better spot the potential for unfounded bias, perhaps?. So as to then also learn something far more from it, so as to then also KNOW how to learn how to adjust their selection methods and processes. So as to suit the situation at hand

Which perhaps they might also be inclined to do at other instances already now anyway too as well. When selecting for sports teams. For instance, i’d say that selector  might be trying not to select players who’d still continue to remain blatantly racialist .I’d tend to doubt there’d be many blatantly open white supremacist type, among all black ruby rank?. The selectors today, will already be purposely trying hard, to select-out potential player from within social environment of which haven’t been overly steeped to close within openly blatant racism. This is not any “completely” new practice of approach either?. Earlier on in history , perhaps the selector might have back then focussed more on concentrating on weeding out and selecting player of what wouldn’t have ongoing growing list “of criminal” record. While in more recent years, they have now been busy trying to select players that “have been able” to overcome racism .

Its been regular common practice ? (IE: been evolving)

Perhaps rugby selector, in future times ahead, may now also begin to start to pay better attention , to certain aspect of “religious environments” as well too? .

Religious environment is really not so very different to what any other type of environment is also like too. They all help play their own part in regard to “attitude” of which can evolve and develop, within-them

Selector are not under any demand ,to have need to select people from “all”  environmental background ?. Like for instance, take note of how, there will be very few white supremacist who will have so much chance, to ever be able to become, team members, of NZ all black ruby team?

Selectors are not bound to have need to choose anyone ?

They retain right to make their selection ,after giving very careful consideration, to many aspects that could be potential for to cause “big problems” ,further on down the track


Rather than shut those warped views down. Far better we would feed the voice as much rope as is it chooses to take . Let the voice stand right out in the open loud and “clear”.

So that  that way, more and more of our citizen, can then also become better educated too themselves as well,in regards to them be able to learn more about “what others” are still forced to need to be facing, from time to time

With a bit of luck this might then help to draw more and more people into more participation in discussion & action, themselves as well too, from then on

With a bit of luck. The conversation can be kept among front page news ,too, for as long as it would take, to finally get the shit all sorted-out , for once and for all, properly

Instead of tip toeing about. And constantly in need of having this very-same stupid conversation, sliding back and forth. One conversation like what we human should rerally have already been able to have gotten past, way long ago before now?

Education is key?. Discussion of what help to “chip away” at traditionally held beliefs, some of what are now proven wrong, by science. Positive progress ,through acts of discussion , and by acts of sharing of scientific info and so on

This is the best method (I feel) to hold any hope to finally help cure this kind of situation ,”long term”.

Until then. Up until now ,we have too often been only keen on taking-on a half pie approach

Human will need to enter into far more full-depth type of discussion ,some of what may constantly “try” our own patience . May even sometimes feel tiresome, and totally exhausting.

There is always some kind of price, with we would also have need to pay, to cover costs, of our hope, of ever achieving some real positive progress?

And while we are at it. Perhaps our government might also need to become more “selective” themselves as well too?.

Or not?

In regard of their method they use for discerning selection of groups  of what require the right for their religious group to apply for charity status?. In regards to whether all group can meet with requirement of being able to prove to achieve enough level of what can be consider as being of enoughpublic benefit ”


My point is. Perhaps we would still be way better off “to learn how to still welcome” the opening up of these “very delicate” and often time “emotional” type discussions

Hard as it might feel. As “nightmarishly triggering”  as it can also even feel,sometimes to us, too as well

These things are all “part and parcel” of the cost of our hope for final progress forward into times ahead, of a more socially positive future

One “associated” question might need to be asked is this. How many groups of what promote unbeneficial public practices, have still been  able to still demand the right to still be claiming “charity status”, mainly for benefit of themselves?


What method of proper “checks and balances” have ACTUALLY been set-up in place

If any?

If not. Why not?

Who the hell knows for sure, what types groups we have, who might be causing our public society element of detrimental socially dysfunctional harm, while at the same time as they could be still accepting/receiving “the extra privilege”  of charity status?

Would that be moral to allow to happen?

Perhaps Isreal Folau’s right to freedom of speech . Can also become motivation for helping many other citizen to see reason to also want to at least re-consider a hold load of important aspect, all also associated with the issue of allocation of charity status? .

Why not?

And perhaps now in our present environment, it might now be due time for citizen  question as to what should and shouldn’t be acceptable , as constituting being of enough public benefit, or not (like when being “weighed over against” any aspect public harm and division and detriment and social dysfunction etc that said groups might also be helping to harbour at the same time as attending to any charitable aspect)

Lets get real. SURELY for God sake. There should ATLEAST need to be some sort of “check and balance” system in place?


Or not?

If not. Then exactly why not then? (long overdue we would get on with it, and reconsider this whole situation thoroughly )

I say ,rather than shun the right for Isreal to make a public exposure of a antisocial faith belief. How about we’d would congratulate him, for the “ultimate overlaying achievement” ,of him actually helping to “highlight” an important issue ,of what might in fact require far more of our prompt attention . Right now (stuff like what too many people, at presently, wont even feel bothered to ever even be thinking anything much about themselves personally, so much, up until now)


Isreal might even be doing “us all” a favour after all? .

With the way that this issue is gathering momentum of gaining more and more “public interest” by the day .


Isreals chosen reaction , could perhaps “backfire” and may instead help to “draw out” possibility for a very public situation of a “one last final showdown”  type reaction. Of the kind of what may in fact have far better chance, for failure (in regard of Isreals original intention might have been “hoping” for to achieve)

But hey. That’s democracy 

It works in that way?

Surely decency of human love’ and kiness toward one and other, which evolved within human being that its also a trait of what’s almost always been seen as the “best option” for HOPE OF human ability for longer term survival. should still prevail,  and still be able to continue to rise above, all else

Or not?

I haven’t, as yet, seen any reason for myself to want to “completely” give up and lose all-hope, in humanity .

Progress, even if when it be moving extremely slow, has still been a happening-thing

Human now already have more than enough science evidence of what’s now available for use of our own reference, to suggest how same sex relationships, among groups of social living beings on earth, are certainly not  totally unnatural, or even completely uncommon either

This is evidenced, through science study

This discussion , of which were first started and “set into motion” by ongoing comments being made by Israel Folau

Could perhaps even turn out to be like a blessing “in disguise”

Or not?


Quote :

Israel Folau admits legal dispute has been tough on wife Maria

end quote

Well , now let hope that  perhaps , by stroke of luck, Israel could also now help himself to be able to LEARN an become more alerted to feeling of gay people , a bit better now as well now too


Us human are guilty of “pussy” footing around, too often. We get cold feet to easy, whenever discussion feels like “tough going”

We want to have the “positive progress” to still be able to happen, quick

But we want it to happen

Without us needing to ever bare the cost/painful feelings of stress or anxiety involved in entering into area we see as being  “taboo”

Many times we cant feel fucked to need to be even faced with dealing with any of it ?

Its as if we human have grown so keen on the idea of a sky daddy who’s micro managing life for us

Its as if we’d been busily hoping it might be able to happen,almost like magic 

Magic is wonderful?

The whole idea of it can allow human, to feel free to become lazier themselves . To retain expectation, that perhaps shit can probably still happen, out of the blue like magic, “supernaturally so

Or not?

Human are way behind in the need for “in depth” discussion. Discussion of what ALL general citizen , should all be learning to CARE to take more personal-interests and active involvements in, themselves as well too ,by now

Human are lagging behind in their attempt to become more responsible, personally, in this way .They are afraid of it

As opposed to their present manner of living existing more like what a flock of sheep, usually do

People hate to enter into discussion of what might feel unpleasant to themselves. They’d far rather to be able to leave that need up to others, among hierarchy, who’d be expected to remember to take good care of it all, “for them”

Human are feeling upset. Themselves. When they learn how “hierarchy” hasn’t bothered-enough to act carefully, of  need

It as if human are “predestined” to easily become convinced that thing can be relied on to happen ,like how a supernatural miracle might be expected to be able to freely occur

Or not?

Some people, “more recently”, are finally now waking up to this

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About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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