The Problem With Our Society

The Problem With Our Society – Gabor Mate (Toxic Culture)

Listen through the video above, and then apply it , to thinking about what kind of health HAZARD affect it would have on Brethren and ex Brethren’s QUALITY of health

Below is a few comments of ex eb experiences. For reference

Note: these one quoted below, are merely like the tip of the iceberg (so to speak)

In other words

There are miles more very similar stories, too, than so far remain untold, of similar experiences, what happened to plenty of others as well

My own ex eb sister and brother in law being one of these story. Having given birth to a child of what was born with a rare disease know as maple syrup urine disease

See some info on this disease here

Note: this disease is genetically driven. It first require both parent would both need to inherit certain genetic  (or otherwise this disease wont happen to babies what are born)

When the child was born to my sister and brother in law, not long after they left the eb and were withdrawn from and had therefore been then promptly treated as if they’d already both died .

Some local eb ,quite likely some member of Brethren hierarchy had then implied that this was Gods “way” of punishing them (IE: the parents)

When this child died later on when aged 4 1/2. After the childs heart gave up,through falling sick often. And perhaps partly due to hospital staff being slow to listen to the child’s parent pleas, for prompt action, to admit to hospital

This sister and brother in law, were to have not even one grandparent , available, there to help support them, not even at the graveside either?

Only for reason because of how all their grandparent had remained within confines of the Brethren cult

Brethren are sick people. Due to hierarchy’s Greed, sadly most ALL BRETHREN CONGREGATION have become void of true compassion or empathy

Considering how true CHARITY  will generally be expected to be seen to start among family

They pretend to be charitable. Sure they do. So as to fool the citizen ,through love bombing . IE” so called “Rapid relief team”

Yet they’ll show no rapid relief ,to loads of ex cult member, whom their CULT, has HARMED  tremendously?

Their kind of “so called charity” is more of an act

Public (PR) relation gimmick 

See the link (who they are not more likely)

Who We Are

Compassion ?

They are merely putting on the Ritz

Compassion and empathy both are usually expected to need start at home, among family. Specially-so, to family whom have been harmed?

The greedy non eb citizen may quite possibly accept it (IE: the ritz-charade), being that Brethren are also offering “business options”, of what other people “without charity connection” status may have less hope to ever offer them?.

Or perhaps those whom are easily fooled into believing Brethren’s claim to “being compassionate” charitable people


  • Miriam Field-Davidson I was so brainwashed, I thought God would hurt one of my children if I left. That was the god I learned in the pbs. A vindictive, angry despot who I better love …or else
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    • Sandie Inkson Miriam Field-Davidson me2 my daughter died @ just 13yrs and the brethren said it ‘was Gods judgement on me 4 selling my birthright 😦
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    • Jilly Moxham Sandie Inkson about the cruelest thing someone can say to someone who’s heartache and loss of their child is at its rawest. Compassion and empathy in the EB Hierachy impossible. That is the sort of comment that never fails to enrage me.
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    • Miriam Field-Davidson Oh Sandie Inkson, I am so sorry for the crassness and cruelty of those people. How horrible. How dare any of them spout verses about love, they are the antithesis of love.
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    • Jenni Mcdougall Sandie Inkson I’m sorry for your pain
      I too was told if I left the brethren that I would have a life of sorry and handicapped children if I married outside the cult
      I had a son Ben with Cystic Fibrosis and a son Kyle with leukemia
      Ben died at 18
      It’s a horrendously emotional trauma that never leaves you
      My heart to yours
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    • Sandie Inkson Jilly Moxham I agree and then they came and demanded her body while she was stil alive ….. its outraGeoUs!!!
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    • Jilly Moxham Beyond belief cousin. Warm hugs♡♡
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    • Sandie Inkson Jilly Moxham Yes I had to get security LoLz
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    • Deb Ghinn Hugs Sandie. Every time I hear what they did, my heart goes out to you all over again. These were ‘our’ people, and it utterly makes me cringe. (Sandie & I come from the same NZ ‘locality’ as the peebs call it.) 💞
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    • Sandie Inkson Jenni Mcdougall thankyou Jenni …. jacqui died of a tumour on the brain stem @ 13yrs I feel and hear your pain #Hugs
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    • Jenni Mcdougall Sandie Inkson thank you
      It’s not the natural order of things to bury your children
      Grief is overwhelming and without family and friends becomes even more unbearable
      The unchristian attitude of the brethren in laying blame and preaching fear is emotional abuse
      If any one else did this it would be unacceptable
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    • Miriam Field-Davidson My precious little niece died from the same thing just before her fifth birthday. She is still loved and missed so much.
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What the hell are our governments thinking when they allowed these groups free rein, as like what they do, that would then act EXTREMELY HARMFUL to human health and safety?

What happen to our Governments RESPONSIBILITY for human RIGHT of health and safety ?

Ex cult member, from all different cults, worldwide, should be acting in solidarity in holding all the governments accountable, for their irresponsible ways

One way to help make our government learn from their irresponsible act, in allowing this harm to occur to human health and safety

Is to take action in suing the Governments

That’s what should be happening

Let the government allow harmful cults and high control groups. Fair enough. Their choice. Let them act stupidly in handing out charity status to them to

But then lets act to hold our government responsible for their irresponsible act. Hold the governments TOTALLY responsible for their disregard for human right to decent health and safety

Sue the government for so much money, that they’ll learn to think twice , about allowing this to happen?

This is the answer

Doing this, will help to sort out problems with many harmful groups worldwide 

You might say, it would be kind of like (the saying)killing a fair number of birds, by use of only the one stone

Governments are the ones, who have BEEN WILLING to put capitalism before health and safety of human

Haven’t they?

Even their GREED, came before compassion and empathy too. In this sense, both culkt vmember and politician are simlar. Their compassion and empathy, is been far too easily overcome by Government Greed for wealth of its citizen “in money terms rather than in terms of the citizen HUMAN RIGHT to decent health and happiness


Little wonder then, society today, STILL lack  to see quite enough compassion and empathy, abounding, as yet too?

People who are supposed to be ACTING LIKE the leading light of grace and harmony and kindness and empathy and compassion, within our societies


Right at this moment

For their ability to cause extreme harm unto certain people whom were UNLUCKY  enough ,to need to be born within this evil religious-based source of SOCIAL destruction

At present, sometimes they (our government politician) wont even CARE to cover people for brain trauma injury, through ACC (many times caused by the same destructive group,who’ll still receive charity status)

They refuse to cover brain trauma injury

But yet they will CONTINUE to support harmful cults,of what cause brain injury, such as C-PTSD ,  by issuing these harmful groups with charity status


This is like the most ultimate insult to ALL those citizen dealing with brain injury


This need to change. We need to march on our governments door steps of Parliament building, come next election time, if need be

Ex cult member, of ALL different groups, could combine-together to create their own large  hīkoi


March on parliament building doorsteps

Lets then see , Jacinda Kate Laurell Ardern and Hon Winston Raymond Peters, try to explain their bullshit claptrap crap about the idea of New Zealander ALL being like “one people”

As if, as if we are?

As if all New Zealander are struggling against harmful ongoing affect of brain injury, caused by cults, of what Government then refuse to cover, through ACC

As if?

What a lie

A lie told to our world, as if it were TRUTH

Shame on them


Ex cult member MAY SOON need to take a card out of the Maori activism way of MAKING SURE of getting themselves heard ?

Organize combined effort  hīkoi ,of ex member of all  different high-control groups, of whom have been affected through HEALTH AND SAFETY 

NO  politician should ever deserve to retain their positions in GOVERNMENT. Should they dare turn a blind eye, “to badhealth and safety policy


We now already have, BACKING of more than enough scientific evidence to prove the harm. To prove how unsafe this situation is

Why are we not suing governments big time already?

Best thing that ex member of all the different cult/high control groups could do for themselves

Would be to organize together, AS ONE , and then take COMBINED ACTION  against government irresponsible disregard of their citizen health and safety 

Never mind trying to talk SENSE  to cult congregation

Don’t waste our breathe ?

Lets sink the whole “cult-fleet“, IN ONE single BLOW, by taking combined highly organized action against our governments

Tha’ts how we could QUICKLY fix things for all people

Its them GOVERNMENT that need to be held ultimately responsible for all this harm what has been allowed to unfold, through badly thought out Government policy, of which were irresponsible, considering the total disregard of citizen right to proper decent health and safety


It happen this way because the government

They have put capitalism GREED first, before consideration of the citizen right to have decent health and safety


Governments should pay huge compensation

Same way what businesses would also be held to account for such irresponsible act

Where was decent Government health and safety policy . When ALL these CITIZEN ,who died through suicide , had needed it?


Shame of the government


You let down your citizen human right

About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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