Hollow words wont change a thing

An ex eb ,comments


Peter M Clarke

Absolutely NOBODY should be coerced into going to church( only cults do that).Jesus INVITED people to ’come follow me’,he never DEMANDED they come…Nobody should face loss of family,job, friends or relatives because they simply don’t want to go to any particular church,or any church ,or don’t profess any faith.The whole concept of browbeating people into making some claim whether or not they believe it puts them into hypocrite status( and likely share with more EB than admitted) .Besides,you catch more bees with honey than vinegar anyway and many people ended going to a particular church because of relationships, not doctrine( my wife’s great grandfather ended up in the meeting in London because his father was destitute and sent his kids over to the tea meeting to get a meal- resulting in generations of that family coming into the meeting in the UK, USA , Canada and Australia- all because they were hungry and were fed


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Its great that believers can agree. But agreeing is  only the first step


We could compare it to how human can very easily agree as well,”to the thought” that nobody should be killed by people driving vehicle the driver who’d chosen to speed well outside of safe speed levels (and this explain reason for why we act,to create speed limit)

Or compare it to how easy it is for human to agree to the thought, that nobody should need to be ripped-off , of the things of what they’ve worked very hard for (this is reason for why human act, to make theft an illegal practice)

And so on

Its very easy for human to point out how they agree to the thought. But these thoughts ALONE wont EVER ACTUALLY help to change the problems . Will they


There are millions of believer who can all easily agree to the thought 

That’s right?

But then there are so few who’d take the thought one step further, so as to bother to care to ACT on the thought, so as to then ACTUALLY HELP to  bring about change 

So FEW  of them ?

Still remain about as scarce as what rocking horse shit is like, to find

Words are hollow when without action ?

Words are a dime a dozen. Million of pious simple believer are constantly passing these mere-words back and forth among each other CONSTANTLY on a DAILY  bases

They can serve (perfectly) to help make the believer feel jolly wonderful, themselves. Bolster the meme about the pious egotistic ideas of being ACTIVELY involved in “serving the lord” , rada rah rah rah

Yet still amount to meaningless  dribble , when it come down to helping to make change happen

I don’t enjoy to say this

I don’t

Mainly because, i also  already totally understand, FULL WELL,  how by me daring to say these things, this is certainly not going to help make me become “the flavor” of the week


But who else will step up to be authentic and honest ?. Because lets face it, if things are ever to change for better, at some stage some people will have need to be prepared to put their own “likability” on the line

So hey, let the believer hate on me for daring to be bluntly honest.I don’t mind. I have grown fairly broad shoulder. I’m certainly not someone, so needy, who’ll still hanker to necessarily always need to “feel” popular . To necessarily have “need to feel accepted” among the human flock

Bring it on if there’s anyone who’d feel game enough to come here and discuss reason why i’m wrong in what im saying . I’m ready

And i certainly wont be angry at any of them for expressing their own view

Words a cheap. Words are hollow. Words are a dime a dozen. Words wont EVER help to stop the amount of coercion and EXTREME ABUSE of what is STILL way to abundant within religion

Will it?

Funny thing to note, they way how “loads and loads of pious simple believer”,worldwide , will EASILY  see GOOD REASON  to ACT  in the way what they WILL  be prepared to take PROMPT ACTION  with regards to feeding and clothing the poor. To helping to shelter the homeless


Will they CARE to ACT PROMPTLY , to help fix this issue of religious liberty tyranny

Will they?

Where is there any real decent amount of evidence, available, to help show that they do?.

Id sure like to see, one believer, come here, to point out any real evidence, to help suggest how believer would care , far more than their “merely faithful” dime a dozen constant feeble offerings-of hollow words 

I don’t hate believers. I don’t. But then i cannot say, i think so much of the feeble way what they act 


About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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