Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson in Vancouver 2018 (with Bret Weinstein moderating

Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson in Vancouver 2018 (with Bret Weinstein moderating) — Night One

A long discussion. But all really interesting .

There were a whole lot of good points discussed. One point, what i felt stood out, to me again, was in regard to question of slavery. The consideration that, even Jesus had obviously “never envisaged a time, among humanity, when we would live without slavery.

That’s a thought worth thinking about

Acknowledging that helps explain why he had talked all about “instruction” on how slaves should need to act toward their slave master, in detail. Also how slave masters, would be expected to treat their slaves, and so on

But then also had said “absolutely nothing” about times when slaves would cease to be in our society

I feel that should make us think about, the thought that if Jesus was in fact God, then we’d have reason to think perhaps he might have known what the future modern times would hold for slaves.

Been able to foreseen a future modern time without slaves?

At the end of the day, most problems, with religion, mainly will only arise from fundamentalist belief that the holy books, are in fact “word of God”

Should believer be able to get passed that idea. Then chances are that problems might then also become way less problematic too

Jesus had felt the “end times were near”. Not so un-similar to how some other believers, more recently ever since those time, also-have felt in similar way, as well too

Needless battle of around 2000 years of family squabbles, broken families and hurt and harm and so on. People burned at the stake for purity reason. Basically all boils down to human not being willing to accept ,the thought, that perhaps their own lives wont last forever

Meanwhile there has also been way less focus on conserving resources and environment and so on, for future generations, as well

Update , night two

Sam Harris & Jordan Peterson in Vancouver 2018 (with Bret Weinstein moderating) — Second Night

 

About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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