Steven Pinker: Progress, Despite Everything

Interesting point around 44min mark. Seems to more or less suggest things along the line of discussion,to point out enlightenment is kind of something what’s “intrinsically“connected to our existence.

Things like caring about each other and working together, have helped human to continue to exist. Without it, perhaps human might have become extinct

I feel Jordan Peterson try to argue that religion is not STILL  a form of tribalism.

I’d disagree.

I see religion as still being about as tribal as what any other forms of tribalism also are/were like. But believers are easily convinced otherwise, and feel that religion is not “at all” tribal. Perhaps because the idea seem like it would be wonderful. Therefore its also something that people may prefer to believe

However, perhaps we only need to read bible scripture, to note how even there within bible scripture evidence of tribalism still exist,when we note it suggests how it would “wrong for a believer to take another believer to court”, but yet “is considered as quite ok” for believer to take a non believer to court,for us to see sign of  blatant tribalism.  Or we would only need to watch believers promptly withdraw from discussion being shared between people of different beliefs. To note how strong the tribalism mentality often still remain within religion

Religion doesn’t do away with tribalism

To me, this video seem to delve into human interconnections.Totally interesting video. We human seem to rather to see ourselves as not being so interconnected. Perhaps , for many generation , the vast size of ocean had help to convince us of human separation. Or the large size of wall of what we built, had then been able to convince us of a sense of separation/safety

Not so much now anymore

Today the ocean seem smaller. No ocean is ever able to protect us, or stand as “point of separation” between us all, of like what it had once previously “appeared” to be able to be

Even high walls, today, are less able to form decent form of substantial separation. Human will  even create way, today, to circumnavigate wall

A side note, does anyone know if Jordan does the voice over for Kermit the frog?


About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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