Interesting video. I expect that the church IS a hotbed for narcissism and narcissist abuse. For one thing, even outside of cult groups,believer are more supportive of believers. Therefore children within a family who’ll approve of belief in a-God, will also be the ones who’ll be treated better

Growing up in our household there was shaming.Our needs didnt matter, as it was the cult dictate what always demanded to become first. So called bullshit about “righteousness” for God. God was always being constantly treated like the overly demanding spoilt child

God would ruin all our fun. Ruin our family relationships and all. By aged 4 (or 5) , i remember our mother making the demand (due to Brethren dictate) that all the rest of us sibling would have need to totally disown our second eldest sister. What had happen, was that our sister had been raped (or something like that) by another brethren church member. Pretty sure that our sister was then made to apologize in front of members of the whole church cult congregation. Naturally our sister was thereafter very unhappy within the cult. Wouldn’t have  (and for wrong reason felt ashamed) wanted to go back to church cult meetings. So she ended up hooking up with our neighbor (in a relationship)who was a non eb, and also was Chinese. Which was even worse considering that this Brethren cult has also traditionally seen Asian people like as if they are in some way directly connected to evil, or something

The outcome was, that our sister was thrown out our house. While the rest of us were then also instructed to need to shun and disown her thereafter.

I still remember the time fairly vividly. I could never have stopped loving this sister.I  can remember myself begging and pleading with our mother, for us to please be able to still continue on loving our sister. And being told the supposed reason for why we couldn’t/shouldn’t. The convoluted twisted deceitful Brethrenconcocted story of our sisters supposed act of evil, blah blah blah. The threat of hell ,and what ever else. Remember how bad it all hurt.How my heart felt deeply broken. Can remember how it had made me begin to see how vulnerable all our own situation also all were too. I believe that this is the moment when i first began to grow into attachment problem. Problem of what were also set to worsen even further, as years went by, when one by one even more and more of our sibling would then also be gotten rid of ,as well, by the very same method as well

Ditched and disowned as if they hadn’t even existed. Or, as if they’d suddenly died (ceased to exist, to extent, as if they were now dead)

I now understand, reason for why, i still have big ongoing trouble with C-PTSD

Pity i only began to finally begin to fully understand, now (bureaucracy within mental health department sure hasn’t helped the situation any. Those places are manned by highly educated people who’ll all find it easy to pass exam, yet still don’t hardly happen have even a minute tiny speck of intuition, sadly. They wont know how best to approach a situation, UNLESS , the direction of exactly how to approach and attend to things has already been recorded within some specific designated work-manual. Our countries are manned by vast amounts of these type people. People who learn via intuition,generally wont often even get a slight chance to secure a job in these position. Because people are being employed by appearance of their CV)

So,within our life while we were all growing up, it was rather like a situation of, if the cult isn’t happy, then nobodies able to be happy (as apposed to situation of ,”if mumma’s not happy, nobodies happy” . like what were talked about within the video above)

Different to some degree ,and yet still so similar that its hardly worth measuring the difference in outcome 

Or who knows, maybe “the outcome” could even perhaps be far-worse?

They (the brethren as a group) together ALL acted like a highly organized bunch of narcissists. Life was all about them. All about their need.They had no compassion , no empathy,for others, and then whats even worse they then have absolutely no conscience, about that sad fact,EITHER

Bunch of horridly sick people (the brethren)

Bunch of morally sick people masquerading as a bunch of “morally superior” people

Anyway, thereafter, all us sibling, from our family, all grew up carrying forward some kind of attachment issue. We all still have trouble with bonding within any kind of relationship.

I feel more and more convinced, that quite likely, all of our attachment problem will stem from our early childhood experiences ,of what stem from the Brethren-cult dictate

These attachment problem ,are also a problem outside of our own family. Because i feel i even see sign of the same problem with attachment-issues, even rearing its head upon ex eb forum, as well. Which is nothing surprising

All the ex cult member, have mostly all also experienced the very same narcissist style “church upbringing” as well too.

Therefore its little wonder they’ll ALL have attachment problem. Issues with unconditional love. Issues over unconditional acceptance of each other . And so on

I feel convinced, that if a-God does in fact exist. Then for sure this God must surely see the Brethren as being disgustingly distasteful

The brethren must make God feel like throwing up “in disgust”?

Yet there they ALL are. Still marching forward under the same old feeble lie of pretending to be separating from evil

Hell, meanwhile their hierarchy are still even BEEN involved in doing all kind of manipulative cunning shit. Certainly evil . Such as this

And yet

Brethren STILL don’t wake up

The all blunder on mindlessly . Their minds focused on money making. Or on trying to convince the citizen of how wonderfullycharitable” the brethren folk are , by inventing their rapid relief team facade

And yet meanwhile they still haven’t HONESTLY  apologized to thousands of families who’s lives they had  helped to ruin

The nearest they came to apologizing , was back within the time of the review. But yet, there again,even back then this apology wasn’t EVER motivated by TRUE brethren remorse

Was it?

No. Once again. It was motivated by brethren cunning 

Brethren inner evil

Poor things

Sadly the Brethren have long lost any real sense of conscience . With no conscience they have little empathy, and also very little compassion either (because of reason how, conscience ,compassion and empathy will generally all go hand in hand together)

If a-God does exist. This God must surely feel mighty angry at Brethren. Even angrier too, on each Sunday morning around 6am when these brethren all parade into their dull boring windowless meeting room. Putting on the Ritz in pretending to be righteous . Separate from evil

All pretending to have truthfully apologized

Brethren folk Putting on the Ritz on every Sunday , for God

More likely, God might feel far happier if Brethren just didn’t bother to even be involved with acting-out their facade


Meanwhile their cult still hide the dirty rotten secret of their ways of constantly trying to cover up the rapes and sex abuses that their own hierarchy were actively involved in sweeping under the carpet

They try to forget about it (easier to do too,with the well rehearsed  Brethren-style “conscience” . Kind of “make-believe” style conscience)

Those brethren folk sit there in those brethren meeting hall, sitting along side of these hideously evil member of hierarchy (ones who actively conspired to cover up evidence of sex abuse and so on)

They feel great ? . Feel wonderful. Feel blessed to be “separated from evil”

What a joke

Separated from evil?? … pfffffftttt

Must be joking

What a bunch of idiots . Bunch of complete fools. I bet that every single Sunday they must ALL surely serve to anger God , no end

If in fact a-God does exist

Imagine being God who’s looking down on earth. Seeing the Brethren folk, within their facade of so called “separation from unrighteousness” facade , all filing into the brethren meeting room on Sunday morning. Sitting there “right alongside“these cunning hierarchy creep who have helped conspire to cover up sex abuse

Meanwhile pretending to have separated from unrighteousness

The bigotry of that must enrage Gods feeling ?

Meanwhile they ALL still haven’t yet truly apologized to anyone themselves as yet either, to all the thousands of families of what their bigoted group has hurt over generations

They didn’t manage to truthfully apologize to anyone. Did they

Why not?

Because of reason that

Their hierarchy,mainly including direction of one Bruce review wrecker Hale’s , were more focused on maintaining their own options to retain control of option to be able to become even more wealthy

Greed for money had got in the way

Greed for wealth was worshiped

Therefore conscience was devalued . When conscience was devalued then compassion and empathy had also needed to be buried 

Bruce Hale is far to small a man to ever care to admit to his own part in messing up the Brethren review

The man is way to small to ever dare to admit to being wrong?


The man doesn’t have a conscience. His conscience is long been buried under his constant craving for greed and money


He’s a sad sad person. A gutless low life money hungry creep basically . Not sure what anyone even see in him?. Imagine what it must feel like,for a woman trying to make love to a small man like him, a greedy man who’s obviously completely void of a conscience (considering cunning plan to create contract to silence whistle blower, and in aid of hiding evidence of sex abuse)  , a small-man who’s without enough guts to ever admit to messing up the review for ALL THE BRETHREN FOLK  who were involved

Poor things (the lot of them)

If a god exist. The sickening sight of this Brethren-facade filing in to worship every Sunday morning at 6 am , must highly enrage God?

Must make God feel like he’d want to “throw-up” right?

Even the fact that Bruce Hales is very selective , in regard to who he will dare attempt to hassle , through court battle

Also help to prove what a totally small-man creep that Bruce review wrecker Hale’s, really is

Iv’e been waiting for the small-man creep, Bruce review wrecker Hales, to dare to try hassling me. Sick of seeing the small man creep keep on only picking on easy targets . Target of what he very carefully select ,so that they wont back-fire

What wrong with our society . With our citizen in general. That they allow these cults to continue to ruin families. To create unsocial human being who’d all grow up to be void of empathy and compassion

Narcissist attitude have now become so widespread within Brethren circle. They will “think nothing bad” of their cunning act to try and quickly send out a Brethren-highly-organized “rapid relief clean-up team” so to  cover up evidence of criminal act involved in road accident

No conscience= no compassion=no empathy

More than likely, perhaps they hadn’t thought to even consider about how “the-other” non eb public onlooker might feel about seeing it happen?

The thought about “other people feelings” , is never so highly-positioned on Brethren agenda

Is it?

They live as if nobody else’s feeling ever even matters so much

Its all about what the Brethren want?. What there own demand are about. Whether they can find any cunning way in which to help uphold the facade of their rapid relief team bullshit-front

If a cover up need to happen. To help them still achieve this goal

Then also be best for Brethren to bury their conscience ?

No conscience= no compassion= no empathy




About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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