heart wrenching to see the grip they still have on some

An ex eb comments

Joan Edwards-Ruck Let it go.. move on… why are you letting these people live in your head rent free… ? clearly our past plays a part in who we are today. But it’s heart wrenching to see the grip they still have on some..

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Joan Edward seem to conclude, that if us ex eb were able to completely”move on”,with “our own” lives, then this might then also mean that the eb would then cease to have any grip on the lives of anyone

Is this kind of conclusion sane ?. Is it even reasonable?

It would be similar to someone declaring, that if only the ex north Korean people could find a way to move on with their own lives. Then north Korea dictator would have then ceased to have a grip on the lives of anyone anymore

Joan Edwards is completely lost. Even although, meanwhile shes busily thinking that she’s the one who isn’t lost. He conclusion are in line with a selfish self-centered attitude.She’s most certainly not alone in that way of being either. Millions of other people are all focusing on living exactly the same way like what Joan is choosing to live

Its the kind of mentality that lives by the rule, that so long as i can find a way to move on and to feel quite happy within focus of my own life and myself, then this is all that really ever matters

And by the rule of: who gives a fuck about the life of anyone else who’s still caught up within the grip of cults

Joan is lost. She wrongfully conclude, that our ongoing active interest, is coming from a “self serving position”,of us continuing to be “focused on the rights of ourselves”

What about the millions of OTHER human who’ll still remain within the grip of cults Joan?

Wake up Joan

For Christs sake Joan. Use a little more depth of thought Joan

Never mind about us. Never mind about the fact that our own children were already forced to have need to miss out on having contact with their grandparents

But, what about others in future times ahead Joan?

What have you done to help change life for them in future Joan?

When Jesus was crucified on the cross. He was crucified for being ACTIVELY interested in making sure that the religious bondage would finally cease for “other-people” in future time to come

Had absolutely nothing to do with idea of Jesus remaining under the grip of religious bondage

Did it Joan?

Was Jesus guilty of being caught up under the grip of “the money changer”. When he were not “moving on”

Was he Joan?

Your conclusion, is misinformed Joan. You forgot to think deeply enough. Perhaps you may have been spending far to much time, hanging around with  shallow thinking  so called “real Christian” ?

The only real about them. Is that they are really wrong in their way of being able to just move on


Those so called “real Christian” folk. The misguided ones who’ll claim to be “helping to finish the work of Jesus”

Who are in fact actually more-active in doing the work of the devil

The one who are also guilty of being able to find their own way to simply “move on” themselves too

All the while, that religious bondage still continue to remain just strong and as harmful, as it always was, even way back at the time long ago when Jesus were crucified and were put death “due his act” of caring to try and help stop it


Joan there is work still to be done . Those shallow minded Christian within Christendom, have been misled into ways of “turning a blind eye” , to ongoing acts of religious bondage, of what Jesus had taken upon himself to work against 

We could say

That the real work of Jesus

Has hardly begun to even be started as yet Joan

To many fools have been constantly taught how to find their own way “to move on”?

Its always “the easier” road for people to choose Joan

When Jesus had stepped forward to try to stop religious bondage within temple (John 2: 13-22)

The misguided presumptuous outcry back then, might have also been

Jesus …. why are you letting these people live in your head rent free… ?

To many would have also taken “his reason” for granted too. Didn’t they?

Shallow minded people

Shallow minded people who’d consider life to be only all about themselves. The type who can find a way to “move on” and to “forget about” continued existence of religious bondage, so long as it will no longer be holding themselves back anymore

This sad situation in itself is the foundation of reason for why religious bondage has in fact continually found fertile ground to continue to flourish

People have been constantly “far more interested” in finding themselves a way to move on and forget about it

Perhaps Jesus could have chosen to do likewise within John 2: 13-22


Old Sir greedy guts review wrecker Hales and co, would like nothing better than to see ex member “just move on

To white-wash the past as if it had never happened https://web.archive.org/web/20131204204302/http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=0da5bf29853dae314c62617a0e52aa6d

White washing the past, in turn also has the affect of priming the future for ongoing act of religious bondage to continue to occur

Which is exactly what has been happening too


Because the work of Jesus. Has ceased to happen. When Jesus were put to death on the cross when he were crucified

These days

So called “real Christian” within Christendom

Today deem the “work of Jesus” should be qualified by evidence of human ability to find ways in which to “move on” and forget about religious bondage of which is still ongoing unto this day

Indifference in regard to this religious bondage

Flows right throughout all Christendom, and plus even out among citizen within the secular community as well too

Ultimately meaning that the death of Jesus was for nothing 

For no real gain

We could say, very similar to how ,to many shallow minded people, today, WOULD STILL  also think “to allow” the death of ex member to need to end up as being valued like, as well too https://web.archive.org/web/20131204204302/http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=0da5bf29853dae314c62617a0e52aa6d

Sadly so

I’ll only agree to move on

After our governments have been forced to finally actually address this ongoing act of unrighteousness

I have “well and truly moved on” from being Brethren. I’d never want to be Brethren. To be among callous cold hearted Brethren  creeps, who lack any conscience = no compassion = no empathy

Brethren “don’t have a shit show” in hell, of ever having any kind of “grip over” me anymore.No way. Not a chance. Not even Brucie

Iv’e already well moved on from that, many many years ago, long before now


I wont move on from this ongoing disregard for religious liberty

I wont

I wont move on from being active against ongoing existence of religious bondage

Until governments have been forced to address the issue

Jesus wouldn’t have done so  either ?

Human don’t have “need to join” Christendom, to follow the footstep of Jesus

No way

They don’t

Chances are, that that might even be the very worst move that any wise minded human would agree to do

When it come to TRULY “following in the footsteps” of Jesus

Believers, today, are MOST PREDOMINATELY lukewarm

Their cult building and bible study –cults and so on

Are all full to overflowing with the LUKEWARM STYLE  believer





About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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