Pray for peace

More often than not, believers are “well meaning” people. They are. They’ll honestly believe in the existence a God,therefore also believe that this “God” can actually “hear” and therefore “act so as to answer” the prayers of humans

For instance , as is obvious within the words used within a “well meaning”  ex ebs comment who’s still remained a believer in God

Quote:

Joy Roberts Wow!! Could not be better said. But God, we are grateful that our prayers are being heard. One by one the links of the chains that so bind them are breaking.
For those still suffering from the physical, mental and in most cases the verbal abuse, I pray for peace.
God sees and knows. God sees and knows. He is indeed able to do far exceedingly above all we may ever think and do.
Lots of love to you all. Thank God for the ability to share.

 

end quote

The problem is this. If in fact no God exist. Then these word of hope, are quite possibly been doing the situation far more harm, than it ever does the situation, much good

If in fact God doesn’t exist. Then this would then mean, that world wide, there are constantly million upon million of prayers being prayed day in and day out, that in affect will do little more than to “console and comfort peoples emotion” for grief  and disappointment of their loss, and plus help maintain the power of religion

However, meanwhile this short term form of comfort, comes at the cost of time lost,  being that atheist minded human being, might have otherwise have been getting more proactive in actually seeking to remedy the situation themselves, rather than feeling happy enough with waiting around and praying and relying on the hope in the idea that a-God might in fact exist, who then might be able to intervene ,so as to therefore “create change”

How many believer will ever cared to stop and wonder why its needed to have taken so very long time for change to happen?

How many ever do?

Think about it.Think about the tedious slow way in which we observe how cult harm, religious harm is changing

The extremely slow course of change what we observe happening

It carry all the hall mark, of a process of change of what seem to be totally entirely human (or entirely natural progress)

Absolutely no sign of anything being “supernatural” about it

Absolutely nothing

For instance. Consider the earlier generation situation of people being burned at the stake for heresy

  1. If in fact a-God did in fact “physically” exist. So that this God might then be also able to physically alter the course of change happening upon earth. Then there’d be no reason why this God couldn’t also cause such change to occur in the blink of eye
  2. But we never see any evidence of this happen.We’d need to take note, that God didn’t strike dead the human being who’d been wrongfully burning people at the stake. Which might then provide us with evidence that “course of change upon earth” might in fact carry the hallmark of “physical” God

There is never ever been any sign of the hall mark of a-God at work within the course of change happening here upon earth

Is there?

Even with the situation the cult harm. All the hall mark of the course of change of what we observe, is carrying a totally human natural nature

For instance,the course of change what we see SLOWLY happening among Brethren rank and file, is mostly being driven through economy and finance. Brethren ways have been forced to need to change course, so as their lifestyle can keep pace with  the way in which modern economy demands

An entirely natural occurrence

These changes carry all the hallmark of a completely natural manner of change

This natural style of change , can also easily provide an explanation for reasons why it was, that these peoples lives , would have been wasted and ruined  https://web.archive.org/web/20131204204302/http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=0da5bf29853dae314c62617a0e52aa6d

If we would propose, the idea that God simply doesn’t actually physically exist . Then we can also easily find a reasonable explanation for reasons why it was, that all those people, would have been left to suffer for so long, that in the end they’d have turned to suicide

Correct?

As soon as we consider the idea that a-God doesn’t actually physically exist, outside of the mind of human being who feel comforted to think than one might-do

Then we can then also easily understand the reason for why they were forced to commit suicide

Correct?

Take the sex abuse within the Catholic Church. Consider the slow tedious way in which the course of change has happen, so that finally , after many generation of “waiting time” has passed, even length of time that a number of those whom were sexually abused, would have all died and been buried long before time when justice was finally served , and when the Catholic church has been dragged to face up to the harm, within court

All of this

Carry’s only the hallmark of totally human nature

Nothing more

Not even the slightest smidgen of evidence that anything other than natural course of change has been occurring

I challenge any believer, to try and prove me wrong

Any believer care to try and point out evidence that would question what i propose ?

I dare you. I dare you to try and front up with it. I dare you to try and back up you’r claim “that a-God is been actively involved”

Show us the evidence

Do the decency

I understand that believer are being well meaning, within the hope, of a-God being involved

You people are well meaning

But

If your claims are baseless

Then

Your claims are also been immensely harmful

Your claim would be based on false hope

Your claim would have been the base cause of so much suffering. The base cause of so many suicides . And so much worse

Worldwide ,there are still million upon of human, who have found a way to cease action, while they gamble of hope of Gods existence

People who are being forced to suicide

Are the ones who’ll have been paying the price of “this faith” of yours

Your faith most certainly isn’t free

Your faith is extremely costly. Jesus never payed any full price on the cross. Because so many more people, since the death of Jesus have been forced to need to suffer on.Many of them,suffering far worse than anything of what Jesus had experienced over the few days of suffering

Some people are suffering for their whole life long (some perhaps even suffering constantly day in and day out over a period of 60-80 years)

So

If in fact a-God doesn’t exist

Then it follow from this , that your “well-meaning” hope, has in affect been extremely harmful

Correct?

Because of reason how it will have been based upon false-hope

False hope of what will have also hindered possibility for faster change

While million of human have been praying to God “to create change”

Possibility for faster change has been postponed 

Because of how, the human have been indoctrinated to rely on focus on the false hope

Million upon million of believers have been condition in ways to help themselves be able to find a inner sense of peace by their act of focusing on (meditating) false hope

Meanwhile

They also will all pay far less attention to acting to help see that religious abuses would stop

Why?

Because, they have been condition to believe that they can afford to sit back and wait and “live in hope” that there will be a-God who’ll be busily involved in taking-action for them

Why has this happened?

Partly because of reason how its been perfect way in which to breed huge number of sheeple minded human

Sheeple minded human who then wont BOTHER to worry themselves over these kind of situation

Million upon million of sheeple minded human who can then also be put to work, so as to help create “huge amounts of power and wealth

Humanity (machine) as a whole has been harnessed and run like a  cult

To help , the system , to create huge amount of power and wealth

Therefore they didnt want human to bother themselves about problem

They’d rather to condition human mind “to believe” in a God, who might be hoped to be active in taking care of problem, for human

That way human can be harness to be more productive in creating power and wealth for the system

System overseen by “the-hierarchy

We could say, that the brethren cult itself, is been acting like a-sub-cult of the system human-cult

Yet they all still focus on creating power and wealth

And the key, to creation of power and wealth, still rely on sheeple minded human

Belief in God has helped to play a huge part “in enabling” this to happen

People can always continue to be more productive

While they can also continue to believe in God who job is to be taking care of their problem

But yet those problem still don’t go away

No

They don’t

Those problems have been busily building. Those problem have even included environmental problems as well too

The kind of problem f what are just now finally coming back to bite human in the butt

A spanner in works what will hopefully now help awaken human

Human sheeple minded people, have been cunningly conditioned, to not bother to worry themselves about problem

But to rather to believe in a God who’s job it is “to be worrying about those problem”,for the human

So that the sheeple human can then be harnessed,far more easily, to be used so as to create immense amount of power and wealth, of which the system hierarchy can then control

Wake up people

Wake up

It is not necessarily always a bad thing for human to “feel anxious”

Its not

Had human been feeling less comfortable with the way in which our environment has been “allowed” to be  abused

Then perhaps this situation might also have been avoided

But then the greedy hierarchy didnt want the human to be worrying themselves about those things, did they?

The want sheeple minded human who can then be harnessed for to be put to work

To help create immense amount of power and wealth

To have this happen

They’ve condition the human mind “to believe” that there’d be a God who’d be continually taking care of these worries (for humans)

This then would also allow human to find their so called “sense of inner peace”

Allowing human to “remain productive even in the face of” dire problem

With all due respect to the “well meaning” people

Wake up

Wake up folks. The wool’s been pulled over your eyes for far to long already

Praying for peace , wont be enough

It wont be

Hasn’t worked this far. Has it?

You’ll need to take action, yourselves, to create peace

This is reason why the situation has gone wrong. Human have been praying for peace

Where as

Peace is gained , through action”. By remaining aware . By even allowing oneself to feel anxious sometimes too

There can be valid reason for why human should need to feel anxious (for instance,like when involved in polluting,or when involved in causing disharmony among human due to religion,and so on)

Finding a sense of “inner peace” through focusing (IE:meditating) on a false sense of hope is right now in this present generation finally proving itself to be a recipe for disaster

 

 

About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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