Come back,we are so close to the rapture

Some ex eb’s are discussing the idea, that Brethren would be the place people should want to be, should the rapture arrive


Craig Stewart


I’ve read with interest comments about the way the rapture is used as a lever in the EB.

Last year I had a letter from a peeb very close to the top of the Hales hierarchy. He appealed to me to come back, speaking of how close we now are to the rapture. I’m not naming him as the letter was also very kind and genuine! Referring to how I’d raised my beloved family and the privilage I’d had of caring for brethren less fortunate. A very different letter from the usual!!

This particular peeb, as is now the norm, has certainly “pulled down his barns and built greater” – Luke 12 v18 – having moved his business to huge new premises on an arterial road. The actions of the HEB are in such contrast to their words – and to JSH’s ministry 😳.

So they’re soon going to leave all the ostentatious, lavish new mansions, the bigger and bigger businesses, the greater and greater barns BEHIND , really? 😂.

Bruce says he’s Joseph storing up vast quantities of not corn, but MONEY MONEY MONEY for ‘the needs of the testimoney before the rapture’. Interesting how it’s all controlled by him 🥴 ….. Will he be able to leave it 🤔 !!! It’s funny, but it’s also so sad, and involves such cruelty, heartbreak and loss.

Cheers, Craig Stewart.

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The question is, why would anyone of us ex eb’s, have any reason to want to go back to be counted  again-among people who have stood by in silence, within a cult, of what had been so immensely destructive to lives of so-many human


What for?

Who would be so stupid to even think of doing it ?

Did brethren ever bother to stop and consider that question?

Brethren, being Brethren, possibly wont even be conscious of the full extent of the harm  of what they’ve all happily been associates of

Will they?

Most, possibly wont even stop, for a second, to give any of it, “another thought” at all either

Will they?

Similar to same way like, gang members, or Taliban associate,also don’t care to bother to even stop and reconsider the full extent of the harm they’d agree to associate themselves with.

They’ve become so completely accustomed to their ways

Their conscience will have long been buried as deep as possible . Set aside , somewhere out of sight and mind, so as to not ever allow it to cause them any dreaded “sense of cognitive dissonance”

Most of these people, will have need to follow “their leaders” instructions, to never ever dare to even allow themselves to read  “alternative view” of anyone else

So they’ll have submit to confining their whole lives within this bubble of information

Information defined entirely by bias view

Because, or-otherwise they’ll begin to experience the sense of cognitive dissonance creeping in

So this is the reason for why their-leaders, will HAVE NEED to demand that they’ll remain confined within this bubble of bias-information

So as to

keep any sense of cognitive dissonance in check

Cognitive dissonance, Quote:

Cognitive dissonance is a psychological term describing the uncomfortable tension that may result from having two conflicting thoughts at the same time, or from engaging in behavior that conflicts with one’s beliefs, or from experiencing apparently conflicting phenomena.

In simple terms, it can be the filtering of information that conflicts with what you already believe, in an effort to ignore that information and reinforce your beliefs.

In detailed terms, it is the perception of incompatibility between two cognitions, where “cognition” is defined as any element of knowledge, including attitude, emotion, belief, or behavior.

The theory of cognitive dissonance states that contradicting cognitions serve as a driving force that compels the mind to acquire or invent new thoughts or beliefs, or to modify existing beliefs, so as to reduce the amount of dissonance (conflict) between cognitions.

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Im so happy, that i can allow myself the freedom, to face cognitive dissonance, of differing view

That’s what true religious “liberty” should require

vector silhouette of a girl with raised hands and broken chains


The right to allow oneself, to be faced by alternative views

To come away, knowing that decision may have been based on information (rather than bias based within a-information-bubble)


Brethren cannot afford to allow themselves to read alternative info

Can they?

The poor things

This has been what has caused Brethren to remain-backward

Even gone so far as to cause Brethren to devolve  (as compared to evolve)

Brethren minds can EASILY be unsettled, extremely quickly, being that their own info, has always been constantly flavored by bias-view, for more than a WHOLE GENERATION , already

Real easy to unsettle the Brethren (this explain reason for why they’ll never dare to allow themselves to venture outside their info-bubble, to enter into discussion, among outsiders

They cannot afford to do so?

They’ll be so-easily shown-up ,to be backward, in knowledge…. Even bible knowledge as well too

So see those poor Brethren, they really don’t like to need to feel that tension

Do they?

Just cant handle the jandle

Yeah nah

Because, of reason how it QUICKLY feels “so uncomfortable”

They can easily feel uncomfortable, because, even although they’ve found a way so as to all allow themselves, to bury their conscience away out of site and out of mind

I still require so very little, thought, before the conscience gets quickly resurrected  real-fast-as AGAIN

Truth can SO-EASILY have that affect on human

And therefore the gang leaders, or the Taliban leader,or Cults leaders, or even leaders of any high-control dictatorship regime

They all understand this too

They also sense that the-truth is a danger unto their own grasp on power

They can sense that

Brethren cult leader,are absolutely no different either

They cant help but fear the truth


Well simply because of reason how its actually so blatantly obvious, to sense the way that Brethren cult has been constantly acting alongside immense amount of evil

For well over a whole generation now already

All those Brethren member. They all also secretly still understand how they have ALL remain as a associated part of it too

Secretly, deep down, where their conscience lays buried away, they’ll all know-it. Sense its so (even all the while they’ll be pretending like as if they don’t)


They’ve all decided to stick to the easy road

That’s been the problem

They didn’t bother to “separate themselves from” the cults ongoing evil manner. Did they?.  They never bothered to take that tough road of what in turn might likely required them to have need to experience “hardship of being separated” from member of their families . Did they?

Yeah nah

Those folk preferred to bury their conscience

To pretend like as if like “they hadn’t EVER been any the wiser” as to what kind of immense evil they’d ALL allowed themselves to remain ASSOCIATED with

So therefore when a person has buried their conscience , this deeply

Then little wonder ?

Then very little wonder then.That when old Brucie review wrecker Hales , become overcome by EXTREME GREED, uses the Brethren bullshit review, as a way to create a CUNNING Public relation scam, a scam to the level of which i can attest had very nearly even gone to the extent to cause ANOTHER SUICIDE. A bullshit facade of a Brethren review, of the kind of like what would BE BOUND TO leave even way more extensive great sense-of sadness and despair , in it’s wake

Then how the Brethren react ?

Mostly, in the main part they didn’t actually even care at all about that happening

Did they?

Absolutely no sense of remorse

Yeah nah .. They STILL didn’t bother to care

Not even after this situation, of what should have served to help make it become blatantly CLEAR,  to Brethren member, that the group of whom they choose to remain ASSOCIATED

Is nothing short of a COLD HEARTED CULT

The poor poor Brethren

Poor of heart. So poor of heart

Due to being overcome by THEIR insatiable GREED  for MONEY

“Greed from money”, can overcome any possibility, for a “sense of remorse” ,to exist among Brethren

Wont it?

GREED  for money is become “like-God” among Brethren


Hasn’t it?

The Brethren, they’ve sold their souls , for money

In return, they’ve ALL became IMMENSELY POOR OF HEART

Makes me wonder

What place for the EXTREMELY POOR “OF HEART” people, will Brethren ASSOCIATE  expect they’ll find within the resurrection?

WHAT real USE,  would Jesus have, for the “immensely POOR OF HEART”, types of people

What reason would Jesus have need to be including them for ?


Where in the hell are the backward bogan Brethren heads at ?

They must be stupid


What in the hell role would Jesus ever have any use for a group of these nasty cult-people all of whom have freely accepted their role as being the-GREEDY MONEY HUNGRY people whom are also IMMENSELY POOR of heart

Yeah nah


What kind of rapture , is it, of what these brain dead cult associate envisage ?

HOW can they remain so blind

The poor things

1.NO conscience (its long been well and truly buried,out of sight and out of mind)

2. No real honest compassion (basically become so poor of heart, they wont even shed a tear even in times when its their own family members, who’d suffer extremely)

3. No true empathy (Brethren empathy, only exist as a measure to try and help secure charity status= IE: its a complete sham set-up which is designed to secure MORE-MONEY)

And yet, there is many Brethren ,who still have faith, that they’ll be offered a place , “in a rapture”

Where are these peoples heads at ?

What use would Jesus ever have for the hard hearted GREEDY bunch of MONEY HUNGRY “brethren associate”

What use?

What “use would there be” for those kind of people

I  have a strong feeling, that i can sense that the very last place, that anyone of us human , would ever want to be found to be, should there ever come a time , when a rapture would arrive

Would be, to dare to be associated with Brethren

Jesus was not really that interested in the hard hearted people


Was he?

I cant see that he were

Most certainly didn’t have much time for the money changers anyway. The GREEDY money HUNGRY fools, who’d ALL been FAR more interest in “maintaining TRADITION

Rather than maintaining a good sense of kindheartedness

Those muppet yo yo’s who’d all REMAINED so COLD HEARTED fundamentalist, that they’d therefore also still remained staunchly adamant , that TRADITION should alway’s have need to remain-strong “first and foremost” above all else .

So that even single mothers might still then be required to have need to spend their money, first-off,  by buying animal to sacrifice ,”to serve-to-God”

Like as if God would be seen as some egotistical creep, who’d always require to have his butt-licked, even if it might then in affect also mean, that the single women’s children might then need to be left to be hungry for food, and have no decent clothes on their back

Rather than to first feed and clothe their own children

This is the outcome of Greed. The outcome of the nature of a cold heart outlook on life

God has been pictured as being some needy-being, who ego gets hurt, unless he’d have million upon million of human being, constantly pampering, and worshiping him, day and night, until the end of their living days on earth

As if

As is , a-God …. A “good” and “a kind” God. An all powerful God

Would ever have any-need to ever be, this way

As if

Little wonder today then, that almost the whole of Christendom is seen to be in such utter disgrace . Greed for money. And poor cold hearted nature

Is been able to have become still remained rife within Christendom today

Hasn’t it

Hasn’t it ?

The hope for real change. The renewed hope. Was lost… After the time they’d nailed Jesus to cross

Why would Jesus be in any real hurry to return ?

Makes me wonder, why Christian would be inclined to still think Jesus might be in any real-hurry to return here

Imagine the extent of embarrassment , to face

Imagine it?

Imagine the full extent of it of what has BEEN ALLOWED  to develop

ALL OF WHAT  so called “real Christian”, have stood by,in silence, and HAVE HELPED TO ALLOW  to continue, unhindered


While still pretending that it might have anything so much to do with

“true honest religious liberty”

Christians often seem “far more worried and fearful about”  pain and shame of what could perhaps need to be experience by Christendom

They’d seem to feel more anxious about the thought of that happening

Don’t they?

This situation (IE: Christian sense of shame) seem to always matter, to sense of Christian pride, even way-above any THOUGHTS of the pain experienced by the people who’d actually experienced the sex abuse

Those people…. Yeah nah… Thought about them… gets relegated second place

In a real hurry?

Don’t it?

“Pride of Church” ..matters far more than anything else ever does


I guess , partly because of how the sense of pride, would also still always  retain an almost inseparable connection to their ability to still retain ongoing cash-flow (IE: greed)


Hasn’t it ?

Brethren are no different?. Brethren seem worse. Because,they’ve believed themselves to be in a place-above , any of the other non exclusive Brethren, believers

Brethrenism is seen to be like “the Christianity-plus-movement”

(IE: Christian pride-plus movement)

Brethren pride has been about pride of the highest level

Hasn’t it?

Brethren =  wealthiest extreme state of pride to the maximum extent + extremely POOR OF HEART state

= Brethren 101

If i were still an associated among Brethren.

I’d certainly be inclined to be totally dreading the thought that a-rapture might ever arrive

I would

And i feel blessed to have been intelligent enough, to choose to leave

If Brethren beliefs would indeed be correct. Then chances are that perhaps the following sound might even end up being sound of the Brethren congregation, of associate’s, all singing-together

But then at the end of the day, chances are that perhaps Bruce Hales wont even actually be “a believer, anyway .Will he?. More likely he’ll just be quietly playing-along-with the game. Like what so many “believers” will also do

He’s just busily milking the cash-cow for as much as it can offer

Or what?

Can you imagine the RAPTURE ARRIVING … And then ole Brucie review wrecker Hales , blunders up the forefront of the congregation, as the sublime head honcho …. so called”divine” minister of the recovery serving to lead Brethren toward ….. THEIR SALVATION

Hands forth his credential,as head poo-bar morally just minister of the Brethren recovery ( . for the the lord Jesus Christ to study and contemplate

Make you wonder, why don’t more of the youth, today, decide to step up and tell the man “where to go”

Makes you wonder ?

Seems to me , that the Brethren might perhaps even still have some way in which to question the legality of the way that they’ve been fleeced

But they’d certainly have need to begin to do so … a.s.a.p


About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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