Have the Brethren issued anyone any written apology as yet?

Have any written apology even been supplied

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Have they?

You’d expect that at least the family who’d lost their family member, to an act of suicide, might at least have receive some written apology, by now (well before now)

Wouldn’t you?

If Brethren ,were honestly feeling remorseful

Surely they’d have already delivered some written apology, to some people,by now ?

For instance, like maybe a written apology to the wives and/or children , of the deceased ex eb

Or to extended family member too

Surely this might of happen?

If in fact Brethren had of actually changed their way

So then the question is

What more evidence does the Charity commission require?

They could simply ask the Brethren to provide evidence

Couldn’t they?

Ask Brethren to provide evidence, of who they’d made x-amount of written apology too?

If in fact they ever have done?

If in fact they have actually ever cared to… As yet?

It doesn’t seem fair, to me, to see the way that the Charity commission would make demand that the “broken hearted” ex eb member, would have need to try and prove that the Exclusive Brethren still fail to change their way

Why make the ex member, have need to run up and down rabbit warren, working their gut’s out with the act of trying to pin down cunning wealthy cult liars down, so as to provide the Charity commission with enough proof, so as to prove how the Brethren have still been playing the game “hide and seek”. And have failed to change their way toward ex members

How is that fair on ex members?

That’s too hard

That’s still allowing the Brethren to have “way to much room” to still “wiggle their way around” the truth of matter

“To fly under the radar”

(so to speak)

Just like usual

So

How about this other idea

How about the the idea, that the Brethren should be made to provided evidence of exactly how they have in fact actually changed their ways toward “the ex members”

How about that idea then?

Charity commission ?

That would at least serve to finally help provide a far better form of accountability 

Surely?

Lets put the ball back in the Brethren’s side of the tennis-court

“Play ball”

Exactly what kind of evidence, are the Brethren being presently required to provide as  a form of”proof” of the way in which the Brethren attitude have in fact changed toward the ex members

Any?

Any at all?

Or does the Charity commission presently choose to simply just accept the Cult-liars word “as if it’s truth of the matter”

As if like its the gospel truth of the matter

And then simply take it for-granted

That it is truth

Without need of any evidence ever being provided

Or what?

How is happening

In what way are the Charity commission “regulating” this situation, at all

How?

 

Surely the Brethren cannot be following the agreement within the charity commissions demands in accordance with the Deed of Variation. Unless the Brethren would provide proper written apologies to all the people they’ve harmed in extreme manner ?

 

See info here

Quote

The Charity Commission has now published a second monitoring report as part of its programme of post-registration monitoring of the PBCC’s Gospel Hall Trusts. Over 100 Gospel Hall Trusts have recently registered as charities; and the Commission made a commitment to monitoring a sample to ensure that they were complying with their governing documents, including a Deed of Variation (DoV). The report notes that:

As with Preston Down Trust, a key element of our decision to register each Gospel Hall Trust was that the trustees agreed to address any issues of detriment and harm in accordance with the Deed of Variation, which clearly sets out PBCC’s principles and teachings and, in particular, that associated disciplinary practices and dealings with former members would be mitigated by compassion.”

The monitoring programme began with the Preston Down Trust, which was the first charity registered.

According to the new report, the Commission did not identify any significant regulatory issues relating to the charities’ compliance with their governing documents and saw sufficient evidence of each charity’s engagement with the wider community to demonstrate public benefit.

 

 

Charity Commission monitoring report on Plymouth Brethren Christian Church

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That’s the charity commissions Deed of Variation

Isn’t it?

That “dealings with former members would be mitigated by compassion.”

You’d think the Brethren would be required to provide written apology (in the very least)

Surely you’d think it would “be compassionate” for Brethren to at least see fit to deliver us some written apology

Wouldn’t you?

Surely so

After all

That would then be more in line with the agreed-upon commissions  requirement, quote:  “dealings with former members would be mitigated by compassion.”

Correct?

Where is the evidence “of true compassion”

Charity commission ?

Wake up

How many ex member have ever receive any written apology at all

Charity commission?

How many can Brethren provide proof of having sent off , to anyone of us

Charity commission?

Do your job properly?

What more evidence do you need?. Its obvious. You have no proof that the Brethren have followed through with the Deed of Variation

Can Brethren supply proof of making anyone any written apology?

If they cannot

Then what more evidence ,of “their non-compliance“, should you require?

Lets get real

I’ll hazard to bet, that the Exclusive Brethren will fail to provide evidence of them issuing any written letter of apology

Because

They don’t care to bother

They have no remorse for any of the many people whom their group has mistreated

This will also precisely explain reason for why they’ll fail to provide evidence of any written apology

This is the reality of the matter

An ex eb said … Quote:

Jill Aebi-Mytton Trouble is Samuel we have no proof that this happens. Hard evidence is needed

 

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How much hard evidence can Exclusive Brethren provide, to say they provided anyone of us with any written apology?

Surely that would be in line with the charity commissions Deed of Variation

Are the Brethren being also reacquired to provide evidence?

Evidence that they’ve changed their way, so as to now be in line with the Deed of Variation

Or what

Or do just get to claim the charity status, without following through with their agreement

In regards to “dealings with former members would be mitigated by compassion.”

Obviously its compassionate to apologize properly ?

About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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