It’s as simple as that

Christians are been busily “warning” the atheist, about the dire consequence of loss of “eternal” life

As if that should necessarily need to be our main concern?


  • Tim Scott Jill Aebi-Mytton well, tbh, I’v said what I personally have found to be true. I’m not preaching but having a conversation. It’s hilarious to think a human being think that a God has to prove who He is to a human. God does not need us. God does not need anything. He is God but if we do ask Him he will show himself. Iv actually witnessed this. I mean it’s mind boggling to think we think we are intelligent enough to understand life without a higher power. Even the greatest human brains will never understand who God is. I mean for one, although I’m hungry to learn, understand, see more, right to our dying day, we are not going understand. For me death has no power over me, as I know when I fall asleep, I’m going to my next life. I’m going to be with Christ. For any person who has convinced themselves that God does not exist is facing death. It’s as simple as that. Pretty awful when most of us are over 50, some over 60 or 70. Blink and we will be facing death. No wonder so many are so grouchy, they don’t have any time left. Regardless of what degrees or learning we do. The body we have is failing, I’m 51 in a way I’m not old, but I’m not young, but what I do know, although I do not want to die, if I do, I’m looking forward to a life with my God. For the so called unbelievers it’s a pretty grim place to be. Just saying. So yes, if we want to experience joy, peace, love, ask God. So for any person who has convinced themselves their is no God, crack on.
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Tim Scott doesn’t realize how he’s been duped into trading in the higher quality of life on earth, as it “would have been”, had of we been able live our live’s freely without our lives being blighted by detrimental affect of religious fundamentalism

Tim Scott has already lost out . Tim Scotts quality of life has already been used to gamble on prospect of of life eternal

Should eternal life end up being nothing more than “wishful thinking” , then Tim Scott’s dream of eternal life will in affect in fact have managed to help to produce nothing more than a deficit for Tim Scott

This is the point what Pascals wager is inclined to overlook .Believers , being apt to often be the type to “gloat”  will have completely overlooked the possibility for the loss incurred

The Brethren are no different. They’ll also  do likewise. They’ll also be “so puffed up with their ways of gloating” over their expectation to gain for themselves big-time (IE: life eternal), it most likely wont even occur to them that perhaps their gamble might have been “placed on false hope”. And that this false hope has in fact already been costly, unto their quality of life of what they had been forced to live

Meaning that they’ll be still bound to be losing a lot rather than gaining

The thought of it never crosses their mind ?

They get so hyped up on their expectation “to win” . That they’ll then also remain clueless, in regard to “how much they will have already lost out” on

Kind of cute isn’t it ?

And it mightn’t be half so bad either, if in fact there wasn’t so much harm being caused unto so many, due to these theists craving for life internal

But sadly, this gamble of Pascal wager cannot be claimed to be un-costly. Its already been costing, the human-lives, big time

The “collateral cost of this gamble” are already immense

Whats more, day by day, year by year, and generation after generation that passes by, the cost of this gamble is still continuing to grow larger and larger

Not that the theist will have a clue about that side of the equation

Will they?

Most will be far to busy with their “ways of gloating”. And be far to preoccupied with their acts of fear mongering. And so on

If it wasn’t able to be ruining so many other humans lives, alongside their own lives. Then hey, it might even be hilarious to think how some human can be coached into becoming “so gullible” , by way of their own free choice

To think , that all the while they’d “gloat” and “attempt to be warning others” , about “possibility for loss”, that meanwhile they’d be the ones who’d be already unwittingly allowing their own lives to also be gambled away on a false hope 

The sad part is, that its not only just their own lives that they’d be gambling with, but due to the lies of so called religious liberty, then this mean that their own faith is in fact able to ruin the lives of both the believer and the atheist

Meanwhile, these puffed theist, will be looking upon this gamble, as if there’d be “nothing to lose” for anyone

Brethren are acting similar

They likewise, will be quite willing to gamble with “the quality of lives” of the ex eb, via their way of causing family to excommunicate

In the mind of the Brethren, they’d also see it as if “its clear cut gamble”, and act as if there’d be absolutely nobody who’d ever have anything to lose

Both Tim Scott and the Brethren are “both acting on equal par” in this respect

None of these people could care less, to bother to consider the consequence of “losses already incurred” , by unwilling participant, should it turn out “that their gamble” had been placed on false hope

They don’t even care to bother to factor it into the equation

Will they?

Just like Pascal , they falsely figure that their gamble would be winner

Completely overlook the losses of what have already been incurred

Most “wont even consider” the cost of their gamble

They wont

It wont even dawn on them that they’ll have incurred cost, within their lives, already, due to their gamble on life eternal

Brethren certainly don’t bother . I have doubt that Tim Scott will be any different either. Note how they’ll never stop to mention this factor

Mainly being as “the thought” more or less never even occur to them

Their ways (IE: the believers ways of life) are so similar to the ways of the gambler’s-addiction who’s become so-addicted to gambling on horses, that they’ll not even bother to stop and consider the kind of consequences that their gambling addiction may have “on others” , even if “the others” would be causing harm unto their spouse & children

Gamblers don’t care less about considering consequence caused unto “others”

Do they?

They generally don’t even bother to factor in the “losses” incurred by others “who’d rather to not need to be affected” by gambling-addiction

Will they?

Meanwhile, the believer, is also the type of gambler who also believe that their-addiction is directly connected tohigh morals

Not once will stop to consider if their belief might stink of immorality

Fairly unlikely?

It might ruin the lovely sense of gloating?

Believer are so focused on how life can be over within the blink of an eye, that they’ll have also completely overlooked the interesting valid thought of how so many people lives will have already been whittled away, slowly

After all, “the religious people” are generally not bothered with teaching their faithful friend to pay much attention to days of this life

Are they?

Just exactly like the Brethren

All believers, are being taught to devalue “this life” what we have here on earth

That’s the reason why they will do?

Isn’t it

They’ve been taught to live life as if their gamble cannot lose

When the reality is

“The gambles already come at a real great cost”


But hey. Believers are taught how to overlook it. Taught how to act as if Pascal’s wager was built on good reason

Same way that Jim Jones were also able to convince his own flock that their faith was built on good reason to, and “was a gamble of what couldn’t ever fail”


This is nothing new under the sun

People have been led up the garden path, by these same methods, generation after generation

Its a great racket

There have been million upon million of cult leader whom have all gotten wealthy in one way or another


The gullible faith-gambler still act as if they’d have absolutely nothing to lose

Don’t they?

They all follow the same path. When it wasn’t the-Christian being willing to gamble with the lives of others (as like what people with gambling addiction do ), in other times it might have been Aztec who’d have been happy to sacrifice the lives “of others” in hope of gaining better crops , so as to gain wealth

They’ll always all see it, as if its “being done for the “greater good

Too don’t they?

Isn’t that how it works

This thought then allow them to find a way in “which to sleep well”

A way in which for themselves to feel as if their gamble is morally acceptable too

Brethren’s ways are no different either are they ?

They’ll (the Brethren) also consider that harming the ex ebs lives, is morally acceptable, upon considering how its being done for the greater good


This attitude has been immensely costly

The cost of “eternal life” is immense. Anyone who’d dare to declare that Jesus had paid the full price of salvation,on the cross

Would have need to be overlooking tremendous amount of human suffering. Cost of suffering of what still continues to amount up to this very day

Not that “the believer” bother to factor it in

Do they?

They dismiss it. Pretend as if there is “absolutely nothing” for anyone of us to ever lose

Next thing, they’ll be some of the people who’ll “be feeling up in arms” to think about “how utterly inconsiderate” ,of others, that the Brethren are been acting-like

Kind of cute isn’t it ?

That’s faith 101

IE: who gives a fuck about “what the cost of faith” might be costing unto-others


Meanwhile, they’ll be saying how it should be the atheist who’d have reason to fear death (IE: as if they’d think that a-God might also approve with their inconsiderate mannerism)

Meanwhile they’ll also be telling us that we -atheist, might need to have good reason to feel so-worried about the idea that we might not be-securing ourselves a place among the heavenly congregation of these bands of inconsiderate mannered believers

Be such a beautiful blissful place of wonderful peace and glorious love (what we atheist might miss out on)

Dreaded thought, it should be, to feel fearful of oneself “not being included among the throng” of inconsiderate faithful gamblers

To fear not finding oneself a place among the throng of believers who’s faith has acted as the catalyst  for huge amount of human-suffering.

That this fear should be really causing us to be having nightmare?

If it wasn’t bad enough to be born among bigoted Brethren, we might have a holy place of bigotry to also look forward to, in an afterlife, in times when we will again be reunited among large flock of human who’d all been happy to overlook the cost of human suffering, so long as it might serve to deliver themselves eternal live

We would then also proceed to constantly praise Jesus for paying the full cost of human salvation

And just exactly like what the Brethren choose to do

We would also proceed to act as if “the suffers” were only just bitter

We would deny that any of them-others had helped to pay for the cost of our hope for  salvation

We would deny it

We would stand our ground and stick to our claim ,that our Jesus had pre-paid the full cost of human salvation, on the cross at Calvary

No way would we dare to admit to the idea that their might have been million upon million of human of who’d paid a huge price

Those folk would be “deemed to be liars”  (exactly the way like what Brethren already try to do, too)

We could all sit in our heaven,looking down our nose at the other-people who’d be the ones who’d dare to complain about “the cost incurred”, all the while we were all feeling so joyfully shit hot about ourselves

And feeling so morally righteous too

Our heaven would be a place to feel joyfully wonderful. We all stand around patting each other on the back while we’d proceed to act as toe-suckers to Jesus (kind of exactly similar to same-ways like how the Brethren will pat themselves on the back too, while also all acting like a bunch of yo yo “brown nosing toe-sucker” to Brucie review wrecker Hales)

Peas of the pod?

Its always been the bases of salvation … all these variant acts of brown nosing toe-sucking

Salvation basically = brown nosing 101

Isn’t it?

Time and time again,that’s how its been “sold as being” about

Isn’t it?

Nothing ever “so new” about any of it.. Really?

Is there

Same old same old … packaged in different styled packages

So watch out… You better be SURE to BE ….. FEARFUL


Get down and toe suck your wee hearts out

Quick ….. Quick

Or God will “do you over” big time … Make you suffer for “an eternity” too

Being how he’s also such a lovingly forgiving kind of chap

How dare dare human demand evidence of God

How dare they?

Who cares about how many human should have need to suffer greatly,due to this gamble

How dare the human demand to see evidence

How stupid of the human

Who the hell do they think they are?


Hilarious to think human should  require evidence

Isn’t it?

Whats wrong with firing ahead, while also ruining million of human lives along the way

Without even first requiring evidence

What in the hell’s ever wrong with doing things like that?

Why should the head-honcho be require to provide evidence

What for?

So as harm isnt caused to people needlessly ?


Bugger them people

Who cares about them folk? .. Them opposers ? … Just acting bitter?

Bugger them

Is Bruce review wrecker Hales required to provide good evidence?

Is he?

He’s not required to

He’s the head honcho

Gods like the even bigger head honcho bully

Isn’t he?

Since when were the powerful expected to need to prove their worth

What in the hell could ever go wrong if we were being required to live by faith alone


How hilarious that the silly atheist would think that evidence might be fairly important


How utterly stupid of them

Those Aztec folk … didn’t usually require to see evidence

Did they?

Those folk were faithful

Good faithful believers . More than happy to allow their family member to be sacrificed to the Sun God

No evidence required

Who cares if the practice had never served to provide better food production… or never served to protect against disease

What does that matter?

How hilarious to think the non-believer thinks it might be valuable to expect that a-God might like to provide plain evidence

What in the hell for?

Doing that, would ruin faith… Take away the faith part of the belief

God demand that human would suffer… big time

He doesn’t care how many human would suffer

And anyway at the end of the day God still demand to claim that he’d have paid the full price of the human salvation

That would be morally righteous … If the God were to decide that it should be

Very similar way to exactly how

Bruce review wrecker Hales can also simply alter the working of “moral righteousness ” as well too

Because of how power= righteousness

Plain and simple ?

He who’d be most powerful… get to define rule of righteousness

Nobody has any right to question

Cut and dry conclusion … Anyone non believer who’d dare to question the workings of it

Has lost their marble

Who in their right mind would ever bother to question the school bullies interpretation of righteousness 

Who’d ever bother?


If you wouldn’t dare to ever question the school bullies interpretation of righteousness, then why would anyone ever dare to question Gods interpretation of righteousness ?

He “who’d be most powerful” .. therefore naturally gets to define righteousness


We’d also be righteous to follow the most powerful bullywithout question

See ?

Power= righteousness

Without question

Oh what a lovely band of brown-nosing toe suckers





About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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