Positive religious liberty

Positive form of religious liberty versus a negative form of religious liberty


Positive liberty is the possession of the capacity to act upon one’s free will, as opposed to negative liberty, which is freedom from external restraint on one’s actions.[1] A concept of positive liberty may also include freedom from internal constraints.[citation needed]



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How much “free will” would be able to truthfully exist within religion today, then?

Consider that question

1.Did the Catholic pedophile priest, ever actually fully posses their own free will, to choose to become Catholic?

2. Or were they perhaps “being expected to” become Catholic. Could they have experienced shunning, should they have made different choices?

3 Would the “negative form of religious liberty”,serve to help promote more honesty, or deceitfulness ?

Highly organized forms of shunning, is one situation that our society wouldn’t have need to support. Surely our society wouldn’t be compelled to have need to be helping to support these uncharitable, through charity status, due to these act most certainly also being of “absolutely no” public benefit 

Its bad enough to think that a number of unorganized act of shunning, would be taking place within our society. We can be thankful,that our government, in these situation at least are not proceeding to support these uncharitable acts, by rewarding the people involved, with charity status 


Those unorganized random” acts are unsavory enough already

But then, to make matters become worse

Our government are then acting to choose to reward the highly organized acts of shunning, of the kind of like what “the cults” and the “high control religious groups” and other groups have been actively involved in promoting 

By even allowing them to claim charity status 

Like a reward 

This foolishness, is most certainly not been “of any public benefit” to the citizen of our countries

Religious liberty, truly only even remain charitable, and of public benefit, should the religious liberty also be able to be of a positive nature of true religious liberty

Because of the way how the negative form of religious liberty are directly linked to issues of lowered quality of mental health. And therefore also to the loss of human physical health too, of what stems from issues of lowered quality of mental health


Highly organized act of shunning really be best “to be penalized” 

By our governments

Wouldn’t they?

Our government would do well, to work in the best interest of the citizen , by acting to tax and to promptly penalize any “highly organized groups” who’d remain intent on promotion of act of shunning

If need be, government could enact the power to do surveillance too

Why not?

After all,any group of what was wanting to act with public benefit interest in mind, obviously then also wont have any real good reason to need to be afraid of scrutiny

Far more likely that they’d be proactive in “welcoming” it   

Wouldn’t they?

Should religious liberty, be able to be upheld within the positive nature of liberty. Then act of shunning would therefore be able to disappear then as well too.

Would they?

People could then have a-right to access and to exercise their own free will

And the Pascals Wager ,would also then become a far more truthfully valid form of argument as well too

And so

Until such time as the believer would finally help to make sure that this would finally occur

Their Pascal’s Wager will remain foundered on untruth 

With the believer remaining gullible enough, so as to believe these untruth without question, by swallowing the bait (truth of the matter) hook line and sinker in one mindless gulp, without even bothering to stop and reconsider the reality

Very little wonder then, that we “would also observe” how often it is that the cult groups would be manned by gullible believers as well too  

Once we would note how few believer there are being taught about “how to reconsider the reality” of these matter 

Faith is been so widely foundered on blind faith ?

So blind is the faith become, that it can then begin to even leave a “large long line of bewildered hurt human behind” the trail of destruction that naturally occur due to flip-side of this deeply unobservant mannerism 

Meanwhile the punter “still struggle to comprehend reason for why” its all been easily able to occur

They have reason to try and propose that “the devils” been involved

Possibly.Not once will they stop to consider, “the thought” that perhaps it might have in fact had “very little to do with” act of any devil. But had in fact had  far more to do with lack of common sense and reason

But hey

Its still

Way far easier to conclude that the “devil done it”

Isn’t it?

At least that way the punter can forget about feeling bad for allowing oneself to be gullible enough to swallow the hook line and sinker,without even stopping to give it a second thought 

Isn’t it?

Believers have been swallowing the general “religious liberty facade” hook line and sinker, for generation

Not even after when it happens to backfire on a number of them, do they even bother to double question the truth of matter within religious “liberty”

Its as if they’d feel happy to expect that perhaps liberty might be ok to be expected to be able to occur for them, by magic 

As if “reality of truth” simply has absolutely no bearing on outcome of situation of what had unfolded 

Even the mainstream Christian within the realm of Christendom, don’t seem to mind one bit, to still live along with the state of the half truth, as well either 

They’d all arrive to judgement day ,at the pearly gate, stating , how the “destruction what had unfolded” within the-cults, had had absolutely nothing to do with anything involved in any of their own choices they’d made

As if, their own acts of apathy, had in fact played absolutely no-part, at all, in the state of the whole-picture of what had unfolded, on earth

Well, we didn’t “create the cults” ourselves . And so it was therefore none of our work.

They’ll be heard to declare?

We mainstream real-Christian folk, would therefore refuse to ever accept any level of responsibility 

For as you can see, God, we quite obliviously did nothing 

We even had “did absolutely nothing” to help right the wrongs, either

We, the “real true followers” of Jesus ?


So , Jesus, did you see how piously righteous all us “real Christian” folk have managed to be


How viable is free will within the realm of religion, as it stands today







About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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