Swallow the bait hook line and sinker

Unscrupulous believer, who’ll be the kind of people with intent on maintain other peoples faith, will go to any length so as to help have it happen 

Even tell bullshit. Partly because of how they’ll be aware of the way how the believer can be easily misled by just working on tapping-into “the believers emotions”

They become like putty . Like puppets 

Its relatively easy to get them believing anything they’d want them to believe. So long as “their “emotions” will have been tapped

A facebook post, was re-posted on the ex eb’s facebook site

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  • Image may contain: one or more people, possible text that says '"Atheist, but now returning to God": Italian doctor's testimony goes viral By Anjali Regi March 23, 2020'
    Celeste Cadelinia Garfin

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    From an Italian Doctor👨‍⚕️

    Never in my darkest nightmares did I imagine that I would see and experience what has been going on in Italy in our hospital the past three weeks.

    The nightmare flows, and the river gets bigger and bigger.

    At first, a few patients came, then dozens, and then hundreds.

    Now, we are no longer doctors, but sorters who decide who should live and who should be sent home to die, though all these patients paid Italian health taxes throughout their lives.

    Until two weeks ago, my colleagues and I were atheists.

    It was normal because we are doctors. We learned that science excludes the presence of God.

    I laughed at my parents going to church.

    Nine days ago, a 75-year-old pastor was admitted into the hospital. He was a kind man. He had serious breathing problems.

    He had a Bible with him and impressed us by how he read it to the dying as he held their hand.

    We doctors were all tired, discouraged, psychologically and physically finished.

    When we had time, we listened to him. We have reached our limits. We can do no more.

    People are dying every day. We are exhausted. We have two colleagues who have died, and others that have been infected.

    We realized that we needed to start asking God for help. We do this when we have a few free minutes.

    When we talk to each other, we cannot believe that, though we were once fierce atheists, we are now daily in search of peace, asking the Lord to help us continue so that we can take care of the sick.

    Yesterday, the 75-year-old pastor died.

    Despite having had over 120 deaths here in 3 weeks, we were not destroyed.

    He had managed, despite his condition and our difficulties, to bring us a PEACE that we no longer had hoped to find.

    The pastor went to the Lord, and soon we will follow him if matters continue like this.

    I haven’t been home for 6 days. I don’t know when I ate last.

    I realize my worthlessness on this earth and I want to use my last breath to help others.

    I am happy to have RETURNED to God while I am surrounded by the suffering and death of my fellow men.

    “In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 5:16

    “LIGHT IN A DOCTOR’S DARKEST NIGHTMARE.”

    From: Dr. Julian Urban.
    A 38 year-old doctor serving
    in a hospital in Lombardy, Italy.

    Kindly PRAY for our FRONTLINERS all over the world.

 

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Nobodies commented “to question the truth” of the claims what are made?

And it seems as if Barney Morris wouldn’t see any reason to bother 

Anyway, i decided to do a bit of my own research. Because, in my mind, the claim “had automaticallyseemed suspect, to me

One thing ive certainly learned well in life, is that i now know that it wise to learn to be suspect of believers . Time and time again ive learned that i’ts best to be wary of what the believers say. Specially when it concern the fantastical super-dooper “conversion” claim. Because, high chance they’ll not bother to double check the source of “claims” of what they pass on  

I have no doubt that this “kind of misleading” situation has always been a part of faith and religion. Even back in time when Jesus was around on earth too, i suspect 

I’d say the bible gospels themselves are recording evidence of this practice. When we take note of the variances between the “differing account” of what was said to happen. You’d need to wonder about how far the stories had been embellished

Anyway. Back to the claim of the health staffs conversions

Someone seem to have done “more in depth” research into the claim as well too

Quote :

Christian fake news ? The story of the atheist doctor 


See more: http://evangelicalfocus.com/blogs/5206/Christian_fake_news_The_story_of_the_atheist_doctor_in_Lombardia

 

 

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Evidently there have already been a “few version” of the same/similar story

I downloaded a copy of the particular photo used in the story posted by Barney Morris. Then i ran it through google image search

I noted that the image had been used a fair number of times . On a number of different news articles

Here is one , quote:

Italy Is on Track to Surpass China’s Coronavirus Death Toll

Medical workers in overalls stretch a patient under intensive care into the newly built Columbus Covid 2 temporary hospital to fight the new coronavirus infection, on March 16, 2020 at the Gemelli hospital in Rome. (Photo by ANDREAS SOLARO / AFP) (Photo by ANDREAS SOLARO/AFP via Getty Images)

https://time.com/5806215/italy-coronavirus-death-toll-china/

 

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Check it out yourselves. This image, is all over the place, online

And then the simlar “story” was posted . And it seems as if “the believers” in this particular situation might have sensed that something seemed suspect.

See following info

Quote:

A friend of a friend of a friend on the internet? I see you posted this on a different site’s forum as well. I am not convinced this is actually a true story yet.

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I think it is a hoax. I could not find any trace of this dr in Italian websites (not even in professional listings).

 

https://forums.catholic.com/t/prayers-requested-for-dr-julian-urban-and-his-staff-see-note-below/600060/2

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From the above info, through the link above i found this information, which perhaps might be a link back to an article where the “manipulated misleading story” might have originated from ?

You be the judge

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Coronavirus: Italy’s hardest-hit city wants you to see how COVID-19 is affecting its hospitals

The sheer numbers of people succumbing to the coronavirus is overwhelming every hospital in northern Italy.

 

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Please check out the link. The videos, what are contained within the article, within the link above, are almost “to horrific” to even watch. 

I still don’t see any discussion about  an “atheist become believer” though . Nothing said about it

So

You’d need question, how much truth does this “atheist become believer” story contain 

Are believers required to pass ononly” that what is the truth 

Truth should be important ?

There is a whole of these so called “conversion story” what are being constantly passed about in a “willy nilly” manner, among groups of believer

I suspect that there’d be few believer who’d ever even bother to double check the truth of any of the detail

They’d generally just

“swallow the story hook line and sinker”

I suspect that’s how things go

It serves to feed the “emotional craving” . It’s the “fix” that they’ve come to crave. The “fix” that’ll still serve to “provide renewed hope”, even if the source of the hope is not factbased at all, and so therefore really only serving so as “to create” a placebo affect 

But hey

Its as if

The truth doesn’t matter. Its a widespread phenomena within Christendom. When you think of it , its also true to say , that “the real truth of the fact“, with regard to correct details of James Taylor Jr  at Aberdeen, really doesn’t matter to the minds of the exclusive Brethren, “believers” , either  

They also don’t care about what the exact facts are

Facts are beside the point

What matters most of all to all these believers, is that “they’ll all get their fix” that can help to feed their emotion 

Its the “exuberant feeling” that hope in God can help to dish out

Once they have obtained the fix, then the jobs “already” done. Fact checking doesn’t seem to be “of concern”

 

 

 

 

 

About ExEB

I'm a agnostic/atheist . Interested in learning more about science. I also am an "ex-member" of a group most publicly known within modern times, as the Exclusive Brethren. Whom are an off-shoot of the original Plymouth Brethren group. I'd say it likely my personality could possibly be described as quirky.You know ,as in being , unconventional , unorthodox , unusual, off-centre, strange, bizarre, weird, peculiar, odd, freakish, outlandish, offbeat, out of the ordinary, bohemian, alternative, zany I'm sure iv'e been classed as "crazy" . Many times But then, being born into a group like the exclusive brethren. Doesn't lend itself ? to tend to produce things considered as being "very normal" .Does it I escaped the Exclusive Brethren cult as a 15 year old teenager. Even since that time iv'e been trying to adjust to living life outside the cult. With much of my life being lived within the genre of "wild colonial boy" style. In the general sense of a church-rebel picking and choosing from role models who appeared within-life along the way. But as the exclusive brethren cult had traditionally maintained a general church-rule , of need to shun and totally excommunicate any ex member of their group.Treating such people as if they were dead. Thus this situation developed more to do with my need of following traditionally enforced church-rule , as apposed to it being so much about "life-choices". Certain emotional experiences, and parts of life in general, have led to me adopting a sense of low self esteem. Which is a situation i still deal with from time to time. Through my ongoing interest in science. I find i am able to gather more information to help me better understand my situation. Much about life for me, has often seemed like a massive puzzle.With many missing pieces.
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