Marianne Thrush’s 6 organ transplant

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Marianne is 30 and a beautiful spirit. She has almost no stomach, definitely no duodenum or any small intestines. She weighs just over 40 kilos. Her whole adult life has been spent carrying around a Stoma bag and having a Hickman line for food and medications to go straight to the bloodstream . Her digestive system has never worked properly, even as a baby. Yet she has tenacity and a great will to live that has seen her overcome constant pain, countless blood infections, near death experiences, and a life either at hospital or with her mum daily picking up IV supplies. This beautiful girl is featured in the age as being Australia and the Austin Hospital’s first potential 6 organ transplant. Her pancreas and liver are also irreparably damaged. Several years ago I became good friends with Marianne and her single mum Lorraine  when they first came to Melbourne to start this battle for a transplant. I’ve seen how tough it’s been to live. I’ve seen Marianne vomit litres of blood and often writhe in terrible pain. I’ve wondered if she would make it a dozen or more times. But it’s crunch time now, and her amazing surgeon Prof Bob Jones and the wonderful team at the Austin Hospital are waiting for a suitable donor and hoping it’s soon so they can perform their miracle. Marianne and her mum Lorraine have survived on the kindness of others, Centrelink benefits, and occasionally taken a few international student boarders. Finances are getting visibly tougher.  Amongst other things, Marianne’s car is almost dead but she can’t afford to fix it. She also dreams of a life post- transplant where she can finally live like an adult and study something like interior design. Surviving week to week doesn’t allow for luxuries or dreams. This go-fund-me is for Marianne, and her wonderfully supportive but exhausted mum Lorraine. It will make an enormous difference to their lives. If you are reading this perhaps you can share it with your friends or just send an email to a potential kind corporate sponsor or friend. Your donations and kind words, no matter the size, will all lift their spirits.

 

https://www.gofundme.com/f/marianne039s-6-organ-transplant

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More info here https://www.facebook.com/groups/5658649590/permalink/10157934597529591/

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Marianne was born into the Exclusive Brethren in Queensland and her family fled the ultra-secretive religious sect which has been marred by controversy in recent years when she was a young child.

Their decision to cut ties with the sect, and leave with only the clothes on their backs, has meant her mother, Lorraine, who is her fulltime carer, often struggles to pay for the medical bills and care Marianne requires.

Of the dozens of Victorians who die in each week, few are suitable donors for Marianne.

“In 12 months in Victoria there would likely be about three suitable donors,” Austin Hospital liver transplant unit director, renowned transplant surgeon Professor Bob Jones,  said.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/marianne-needs-six-organs-to-survive-20200110-p53qhl.html

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Surprise surprise …Ministry of “Lies, Lies, Lies”

 

When money become God

Heil Bruce review wrecker Hales

Greedy Bruce Review Wrecker Hales

Evidently says that it’s ok for Brethren to lie

Surprise surprise ?

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  • Michael Hewitt BDH did say it’s ok to lie to the enemy. It raises the question, who is the enemy? It was quite clear at the time of the CC investigation who the ‘enemy’ was. At that time, roadshows were held in meeting room foyers Alarming WW2 clips of tank warfare and bombing raids were shown to drum into us that the charity commission investigation was WAR! It was proclaimed emphatically, ‘THIS IS WAR!’
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    • Fran Gallotti I am surpised that those who have acutally been in the war didn’t get hit with lightning or somethinig and realize this is so wrong. It was follow the leader in my day, but now it appears to so much worse, gives me the willies.
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Who is the actual enemy then

Its all about wealth and power ?

No conscience = no TRUE compassion = no REAL empathy

= Exclusive Brethren ministry of lies

No great surprise

Lies lies lies lies lies

 

Lies lies lies lies lies lies lies

Who We Are

Compassion in Action

“Dressed up like a million dollar trooper”

“Trying hard to look like Gary Cooper”

“…..Super duper !!…..”

Ohhhh ……. “wow”

 

Lies lies lies lies lies lies lies

Brethren Compassion in Action

https://web.archive.org/web/20131204204302/http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=0da5bf29853dae314c62617a0e52aa6d

Who We Are

Brethren Compassion in Action

Lies lies lies lies lies

Who We Are

Puttin it on puttin it on puttin it on

https://web.archive.org/web/20131204204302/http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=0da5bf29853dae314c62617a0e52aa6d

Puttin it on….puttin it on

Who We Are

Puttin it on puttin it on puttin it on

https://web.archive.org/web/20131204204302/http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=0da5bf29853dae314c62617a0e52aa6d

Puttin it on puttin it on puttin it on

Exclusive Brethren ministry of lies

Lies lies lies lies lies

Brethren lies caused people to die … Brethren lies caused people to die ….. Brethren ministry of lies caused people to die

Separation from evil since 1820″ ??

Lies lies lies lies lies

 

Brethren hard hearted ministry of lies

 

 

 

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Alternative cure for Brethrenism ?

I stumbled upon an idea, of what i automatically thought might be a cure for Brethrenism

What about the idea of it?

Mind you, when it comes to problem of curing someone like ole greedy guts Brucie Hales , by use of this type method. Then perhaps the usual tool for ringing the bowl, mightn’t be anywhere good enough?.

Perhaps more likely be needing to swap-it out, and instead apply use of a friggin sledge hammer

Or something

Just so as to have the healing “ring tone” to be able to become loud and clear and strong enough,so as to help cause “an enlightenment” to finally begin to occur

It would sure seem to need to take a whole lot, “of something”, to ever help “shake loose” the extreme “greedy-gutsnature of ole Brucie review wrecker Hales

That’s for real

Absolutely no use at all in hoping that perhaps ole Brucie might ever have “enough heart” to CARE to bother

No way

Not a shit show in hell

Brucie , and co, have always all-been “all about following the flow of money

Nothing much else

You certainly wouldn’t waste your time with hoping they’d grow a heart

Not likely

For one thing, those men ,are far to small, type men, to ever gather enough guts to care to admit to THEIR own part in MISLEADING  the brethren

They wouldn’t have enough guts

Besides

They are still being ruled by their greed for money

Brethren sure seem to be needing something kinda like this singing bowl treatment?

Don’t they

They sure need some kind of alternative treatment, to help cause an awakening to begin within

What in the hell else, is there, of what would ever help to awaken them from slumbering within their systematic religiously induced stupor

What else?

Perhaps they could design and create a massive huge great big singing bowl, one that might then be “hung-out” from underneath a helicopter over above the Brethren windowless meeting room “brainwashing convention” centers

Then “hammer the living hell” out of it

 

Give it all they got

Hope like anything, that with a “whole lot of luck” perhaps these singing bowl might even hold enough powerful “sound wave” within them, to even help to re-arouse brain cell, among brethren

Admittedly , this could be a “task far to large” to ask for to ever work

I mean, it’s one thing for to expect that these ringing bowl might in fact be able to help to enlighten and cure normal folk

But cure the mindless Brethren?

That there is always going to be a huge ask

The heartless people, who’d all already SINCE time of their BIRTH, already long become “void of conscience”

Void of TRUE compassion

Void of source of”true empathy” of the type that wouldn’t have direct-connection to greed for money

This obviously could therefore be a “very big” ask?

Or a “complete impossibility” even perhaps ?

Who knows

But then,anyway one always still continually “lives in hope”. Hope, even when one would have seemed to be hoping against all odds

You’d hope that perhaps the youth might begin to awaken from Brethrenism bullshit . Wouldn’t ya?.. Begin to cease to allow themselves to be led along throughout life like as if they were all a mindless bunch of “yo yo” puppet’s dangling on a string

Contented with crawling up the butt of Brethren hierarchy wankers like Bruce Hales

All their life long

Believing the crap about whacky cult-brained idea of “securing themselves a place” in some heaven

After having also already been counted among the rank and file of a bunch of religious creeps who’ve also already been taking their own part in helping to cause huge amount of grief , to certain people who were singled-out to receive heinous method of punishment (IE: psychological methods of  torture), and even to full-extent of going so far as to be actively involved in helping to cause certain people to commit suicides

Take “a brainwashed” person, to STILL be able to be stupid enough, as believe, they’d be “lining themselves up” so as to reserve themselves a place in heaven

Who’d be remain foolish enough to believe that?

They’d need to be nut’s (or brainwashed,or both)

These systematically-lost people sure seem to have real dire need of this singing bowl treatment”

Wouldn’t they?

Yeah nah… Sure seem to me like they do

You’d sure need ring like bowl like “loud as hell” …though

Ring it with “all the-might” that a human body can ever have hope to summon

Even then, chances are that perhaps the brethren bunch of  brainwashed yo yo’s still wouldn’t even recollect a sound

Wouldn’t “even register” a thing

The sound would shoot in one ear, and then flow straight through right back out the other side again

Without ever even touching “anything” much AT ALL,”in between”

If there were no money for the brethren yo yo “to remain focused on” religiously

What would they have left in their lives to focus-on, then ?

What would be left

The poor idiot are not even allowed , the human right , to be celebrating their relations marriages, or birthdays and so on

Full heartedly

Are they?

Not allowed to do this … Not allowed to do that…. Not allowed to do this, that or the other things either

Are they?

They live their lives-out like a brainwashed bunch of Brethren yo yo’s

Don’t they?

Bunch of “yes” men and women

Yes sir greedy Brucie Hales . No sir greedy guts Brucie Hales .. three bags full sir greedy guts Brucie Hales … and co

Yes sir’s, yes yes yes we will all mindlessly AGREE to become your little yo yo puppy dog “puppets” 

In life

Spend our whole lives, with busily

Butt licking after your “every-whim” and “beckoned-call” from before daylight until long after dark

Bowing down  “like Muppet’s” to the crazy-rules and regulation and demand of the Brethren hierarchy

Crazy rules and regulation of what will

Also quickly change and suddenly flip- flop around

Almost

As if it’s depending on which way the wind-blows

Enough to make a non eb normal person,want to grab a-hold of one of these singing bowl

Hang it over the brethren’s heads?

“And to ring the living hell out of it”

Hope like hell that perhaps a few more brain cell might begin to re-awaken within

How stupid can “a believer” ever “be led” to be?

They live exist within the boundary of a cult that’s even guilty of conspiring to sweep sex abuses under the carpet

“So as to save face”

To help hide their dirty linen

So as to be able to pretend to be “the righteous ones”

Meanwhile these fools have been led to believe , that these antic of their’s, will have somehow served to help enable themselves to

“separate themselves from evil “

They must nut’s, to believe it?

They must need to be

They surely must be?

Dear reader, can you even begin to believe that “a-people” could have ever have all allowed themselves to be led to become so blindly stupid

Can ya

Hard to believe… Isn’t it?

How in the hell, could a “whole” group of “human beings” have ever been able to all become so blindly stupid?

In mass

These folk all sure as hell are in dire need of the ringing bowl treatment

 

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On a Brethren Sunday morning … coming down

Perhaps something might sound something kind of slightly familiar to some ?

Hic ! hee hee haa haa, hic heeeee haa “you bum you” haaaaa  ahhhhhhhh oooowww hee hee haaaaaa hic hic aahhaaa yaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy hee hee haaaaaaaaaaa “stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp ” haaa heee haaaaaa

Yyyouw never ad it like dis hic ahhhh hee hee haaaa “son of a bitch”  haaaaaa “bastards” haaaaa “stomp stomp stomp stomp stomp ” hic weeeeeheeee haaa hic haa heee hee haaaaaa

Ahhhh taught tee taww tee puddy cat , heee haaa hee he tewww plurry pissed at tee time tuu even know? haaaa hee hee hic haaa

Yyyouw there George ?  hic hic haaa yyyouw aaalways asleep at meetings aall the time George?  haaa hee hee ahaaaa … Yyyouw tuuu plurry pissed all the time on de whisky tu ahh yee George? aaahaaa hee hic haaaaa hee heee

Following link below is from the “way-back machine” link to the very same Aberdeen audio

https://web.archive.org/web/20190613182805/http://wikipeebia.com/audio/aberdeen.mp3

 

http://www.discourses.org.uk/History/TheAberdeenIncident.pdf

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Brethren Narcissism

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Ilona Hughes Lyons
20 hrs
Seriously?? You brethren are a bunch of asshole pricks. Sit and watch our house til we leave for Jerrys truck in the morning then sit and watch us say goodbye then start in on how much grace you’ve shown us?? And how you need to keep the Lords Assembly pure? What about all those in there that are ACTIVELY doing drugs, abusing their wives and kids, committing adultery, alcoholics, there’s lots who DONT EVEN BELIEVE!! what about all the adults who provide alcohol to minors? Oh but we are the UNPURE ones because we chose to go to a different Church. Ok 👌🏻 oh and they don’t want to talk to us if our pastor is there 🤣🤣🤣🤣 says a lot. 🙄. Did you not have the balls to come to our house? Or call us on the phone? Slime Balls. I hope the communities around here know the damage you cause among loving families.

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Pure?

Pure?

 

Pffffffffttttttttt !!

Bout only thing pure about Brethren folk, is the pure bullshit they tend to speak. about so called “ambush’ with  James Taylor Jr’s dirty minded antics 

See here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Taylor_Jr._(Exclusive_Brethren)#The_Aberdeen_incident

Oh well . Poor things simply don’t know much better

Do they?

All good though. Let them put the unsocial attitude on display. Try to get a video of the situation next time. Hand it in to police?

Or even better the TV new media outlets

Don’t let it worry you though. Hell you folk are the WONDERFUL staunch strong resilient  gutsy lucky ones anyway. The people with enough GUTS to leave?

Congratulations from us ex ebs in New Zealand … kia kaha !

We all think you’s are real-choice people .

Salt of the earth type

Don’t forget , the Brethren youth don’t have anything so-much better to spend their time doing anyway?. Childish things can sometimes help keep broad narrow minded people well occupied.

Or what?

Its about the best experience of “so called great fun” that they might even think to come up with doing?

That’s how horridly sad things are

Even when they’ve become adults

They STILL know no better. It amount to gratification from vanity or egotistic admiration of one’s idealized self image and attributes

See info  here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism

Their “peer” ole Bruce Hales Almighty Boo Boo (who’d been and totally blown the Brethren review for EVERYONE INVOLVED due to being remaining overcome by his own Greed) , has helped to pave the way for the Brethren Youth to have this ongoing need to remain socially backward

Poor things ?

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Creating a life worth living after toxic shame in childhood

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The global care and compassion of the Plymouth Brethren

Exclusive Brethren, try to claim to have compassion. To show compassion

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“We strongly refuse the suggestion that the person in questions was put under any improper pressure by members of the Brethren community.

The global care and compassion of the Plymouth Brethren can be seen extensively by the work of the Rapid Relief Team who are providing support to the youth, disability, homeless and emergency services.

“The RRT will be supporting for the second year the Homeless Games in Liverpool. Our volunteers can be seen taking a very active part to support all who attended.”

See info here https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/mum-three-brainwashed-cult-who-17628561

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Now, the problem with this claim, from the Brethren, is that the Brethren have also become world renown , for being cunning at use of strategic planning (even although it cannot be said that they are “intelligent in their way of carrying-out” their strategies. Being as they’ll usually just blunder on-along, and will too often also get caught-out along the way, with their pants down)

For instance, see these following details

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10425883

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/102350200/exclusive-brethren-members-in-cleanup-operation-after-fatal-crash

https://www.smh.com.au/national/potential-witness-in-exclusive-brethren-sex-abuse-case-paid-to-remain-silent-20171018-gz35mf.html

There are so many more other similar info available too, online of what people can research, for themselves, and find, all of what describe and help to record careful-details of the many instances of Brethren cunning manipulative mannerism.

The word manipulative, and the word Brethren, could by-now almost be said to have become synonymous

In stead of saying, “are you being manipulative, mate?”.

A person could almost rephrase the sentence, and instead say, “are you being Brethren, mate?”

People could do?

Yeah nah they could. Sure wouldn’t take all so long for citizen to soon catch-on to exactly what was being “meant”

And yet

Brethren will still probably

strongly refuse the suggestion” once again too

But then that’s generally always been the Brethren’s way of doing things. In my opinion, by judgement ive made via my own experience, i can say that Brethren are about as slippery as coil of snakes

These people are wealthy in money, and yet have also become EXTREMELY POOR of heart

They have very little conscience. I now sometimes am forced to wonder, if they would even manage to have a slight sense of conscience ,anymore. Their willingness to bend the truth, is become such commonplace act among their whole rank and file

There will certainly be people among Brethren, who’d be “believers”. They’ll still believe in a-God. However, i suspect that perhaps they’ll have ,by now, become so “deeply entwined” within a number of dodgy dealing and secretive goings-on , perhaps involving MONEY, that by now they probably will also have some need to fear any idea of themselves ever turning whistle-blower, for fear of perhaps being found-out in regard to their own part within any of the groups dodgy dealings

Similar ways to what can also occur within gang lifestyle.

But anyway, the Brethren are very quick to claim, quote:

The global care and compassion of the Plymouth Brethren can be seen extensively by the work of the Rapid Relief Team who are providing support to the youth, disability, homeless and emergency services.

“The RRT will be supporting for the second year the Homeless Games in Liverpool. Our volunteers can be seen taking a very active part to support all who attended.”

 

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Now, Brethren would like to have citizen, to believe , that Brethren are openly compassionate very kind hearted people.

They’ll go right way out of their way, so as to set up this very public spectacle (PR public relation campaign ) with their , so called , Rapid Relief Team

Who We Are

Carefully correlated public display, so as to show-off, to citizen

“how wonderful we Brethren are”

Right?

Doesn’t it look all so-shiny-flash …on the surface ?

Jolly wonderful huh ?

” Ohhhh laaa laaa “

With all of the fancy bells and whistles and what-not, too

But hey

Hold on a minute

If the Brethren are really so kind and compassionate . Like what they like to pretend to be

Then what about this following question below then

Where is there any sign of Brethren’s compassion and empathy, involving “a nature of giving to help” those in need

In this following instance of interest

https://www.gofundme.com/f/marianne039s-6-organ-transplant

Can anyone see any sign of donation been made by Brethren Rapid “Relief” Team

Can anyone see any?. Can any citizen help to point it out for us ?

Where is it

Was it “rapid” relief ?

Was it

Where?

There is no sign of any Brethren rapid relief, in this instance

Is there?

Seems like they wouldn’t give a stuff. Not even although its connected to a women who’s known to them, and who also been struggling like hell,for her whole life long

They have absolutely no sense of compassion for this women

Do they?

No real deep sense of empathy for her

And then sadly, what worst of all

They’ll also have:

absolutely no conscience to boot either

No sense of conscience for failing to be able to be compassionate toward her and her mother

Brethren could be best-described as being like a wayward ship of fools

Their leader, Bruce Review Wrecker Hales, would only have need to declare the words … “jump Brethren jump ”

And then next thing the Brethren mindless yo yo’s , would all promptly begin to start “jumping around the place” …. Follow the leaders requirement anywhere

Similar to like what a flock of sheep will also do

You wont many any Brethren stepping out to go take hold of their own initiative, to go and make a donation toward helping the woman Marianne Thrush

Will you?

You probably wont

They wouldn’t have the real sense of compassion, of what would be required to help make them want to do so

Would they?

Without compassion, they’ll then also have no empathy either

Then to top matters off, with absolutely no conscience, they’ll then also have very little hope to ever see reason to change their way

Many,wont even allow themselves time to stop and reconsider their manner

Exclusive Brethren

The wayward lost ship of fools

Ship of fools tossed about to and fro in face of every stormy wind-change what’s constantly engineered by Greedy Bruce review wrecker Hales

Brethren compassion is based entirely on strategy. Its more about business as usual

 

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Government-commissioned report into child sex abuse among Jehovah’s Witnesses

 

The Utrecht Report – Episode 31 – Watchtower In Focus LIVE

Another interesting John Cedars video. Certainly looks like the net is slowly drawing-in on the Cults ability to “fly above the radar”

Doesn’t it?

Ever so slowly, the world is waking up to the situation

 

Could be interesting to see a government-commissioned report, happen sometime, into child sex abuse among Exclusive Brethren. I know for sure that Brethren,among the Brethren hierarchy, have sort to pretend as if they have been straight-up honest in regard to dealing with sex abuse complaint. I can attest to the fact that they’ll even attempt to suggest that cases of abuse, are become historic abuse , of which the facts have become “obscured”, due to time past.

And then, when you remind them, that there are people still alive, who’d been directed to say sorry, who had even gone so far as to also discuss the details of abuse. In affect also openly admitting to having been made “fully aware”, of details

They’ll then promptly stop returning anymore email,back to you.And will suddenly go silent.

I’d also pointed out, to the Brethren member of hierarchy, with whom i’d been emailing back and forth with, that the priest of who’d been originally involved, had even been required to have need to phone me up during time of my visit with Brethren family, at their home, during the very time of the Brethren review, so as for him to personally specially phone-and-apologize to me, for his own part in not taking better care, over dealing with my original complaint.

I told him, (the person i’d be in email discussion with) that i felt sure that there’d even be phone records, of what could be used to help back up my claim too. And even told him,that there were a number of member of my own family who were all present at the very time that the priest had phoned up. And that my eldest brother, had been the one, to actually answer the phone, and to then pass the phone-call on over to me, for said priest to carry-out his personal apology to-me in person

The story relayed back to me, also during the same time of my visit among family, at that time within the Brethren bullshit review, also was, that evidently Bruce review wrecker Hales were also actively involved, behind the scene, in helping to micro manage all of the goings-on

Yeah

I’d say that a government-commissioned report into child sex abuse among Exclusive Brethren, could be mighty interesting, to see happen. I feel, it might drag a lot of info out into the open

Would also at least be fairly interesting to know for sure whether our own family, would still rather to continue to cover-up detail, and lie for sake of protecting interests of Bruce Hales. Or not

When family are willing to lie in this manner. It certainly tends to leave you feeling more lonely in life. You learn, that your own family would still quite happily pass you-by for sake of their own craving for wealth, and their concern for their-own sake of self preservation (strangely enough,they’ll seem to figure as its in interest of their own salvation, to even lie . Buggered if i know why)

Its certainly not a nice feeling. That’s for sure. To know that your family generally wouldn’t care.But, at least you do then know exactly where you stand?. You’ll know exactly where your “families-loyalties” lay. And as gut wrenching as it may feel, its still way far better, that you’d know that for-sure. So you can move on. Not need to cling on to false-hope, anymore. Which is a bonus

I know this. Our ancestors would be turning in their graves. They’d  feel utterly disgusted. They’d be angry as hell too. Our old man would be feeling sick, to know the level of low that member of our family had fallen to

Personally, more than anything, i feel pity for these people. Pity to think that they’d have allowed themselves to fall so low

Poor poor Brethren. Extremely POOR  of heart

Absolutely no conscience. Compassion, realistically, only amount to nothing.Honesty of empathy, isn’t even worth mentioning,as it exist only as a “charade purposely designed “so as to allow Brethren to still continue to claim charity status

These cults are kind of like peas of a pod. Their antics are often so similar

 

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Come back,we are so close to the rapture

Some ex eb’s are discussing the idea, that Brethren would be the place people should want to be, should the rapture arrive

Quote:

Craig Stewart

THE RAPTURE:

I’ve read with interest comments about the way the rapture is used as a lever in the EB.

Last year I had a letter from a peeb very close to the top of the Hales hierarchy. He appealed to me to come back, speaking of how close we now are to the rapture. I’m not naming him as the letter was also very kind and genuine! Referring to how I’d raised my beloved family and the privilage I’d had of caring for brethren less fortunate. A very different letter from the usual!!

This particular peeb, as is now the norm, has certainly “pulled down his barns and built greater” – Luke 12 v18 – having moved his business to huge new premises on an arterial road. The actions of the HEB are in such contrast to their words – and to JSH’s ministry 😳.

So they’re soon going to leave all the ostentatious, lavish new mansions, the bigger and bigger businesses, the greater and greater barns BEHIND , really? 😂.

Bruce says he’s Joseph storing up vast quantities of not corn, but MONEY MONEY MONEY for ‘the needs of the testimoney before the rapture’. Interesting how it’s all controlled by him 🥴 ….. Will he be able to leave it 🤔 !!! It’s funny, but it’s also so sad, and involves such cruelty, heartbreak and loss.

Cheers, Craig Stewart.

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The question is, why would anyone of us ex eb’s, have any reason to want to go back to be counted  again-among people who have stood by in silence, within a cult, of what had been so immensely destructive to lives of so-many human

Why?

What for?

Who would be so stupid to even think of doing it ?

Did brethren ever bother to stop and consider that question?

Brethren, being Brethren, possibly wont even be conscious of the full extent of the harm  of what they’ve all happily been associates of

Will they?

Most, possibly wont even stop, for a second, to give any of it, “another thought” at all either

Will they?

Similar to same way like, gang members, or Taliban associate,also don’t care to bother to even stop and reconsider the full extent of the harm they’d agree to associate themselves with.

They’ve become so completely accustomed to their ways

Their conscience will have long been buried as deep as possible . Set aside , somewhere out of sight and mind, so as to not ever allow it to cause them any dreaded “sense of cognitive dissonance”

Most of these people, will have need to follow “their leaders” instructions, to never ever dare to even allow themselves to read  “alternative view” of anyone else

So they’ll have submit to confining their whole lives within this bubble of information

Information defined entirely by bias view

Because, or-otherwise they’ll begin to experience the sense of cognitive dissonance creeping in

So this is the reason for why their-leaders, will HAVE NEED to demand that they’ll remain confined within this bubble of bias-information

So as to

keep any sense of cognitive dissonance in check

Cognitive dissonance, Quote:

Cognitive dissonance is a psychological term describing the uncomfortable tension that may result from having two conflicting thoughts at the same time, or from engaging in behavior that conflicts with one’s beliefs, or from experiencing apparently conflicting phenomena.

In simple terms, it can be the filtering of information that conflicts with what you already believe, in an effort to ignore that information and reinforce your beliefs.

In detailed terms, it is the perception of incompatibility between two cognitions, where “cognition” is defined as any element of knowledge, including attitude, emotion, belief, or behavior.

The theory of cognitive dissonance states that contradicting cognitions serve as a driving force that compels the mind to acquire or invent new thoughts or beliefs, or to modify existing beliefs, so as to reduce the amount of dissonance (conflict) between cognitions.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/cognitive_dissonance.htm

end quote (my bold)

Im so happy, that i can allow myself the freedom, to face cognitive dissonance, of differing view

That’s what true religious “liberty” should require

vector silhouette of a girl with raised hands and broken chains

Correct?

The right to allow oneself, to be faced by alternative views

To come away, knowing that decision may have been based on information (rather than bias based within a-information-bubble)

 

Brethren cannot afford to allow themselves to read alternative info

Can they?

The poor things

This has been what has caused Brethren to remain-backward

Even gone so far as to cause Brethren to devolve  (as compared to evolve)

Brethren minds can EASILY be unsettled, extremely quickly, being that their own info, has always been constantly flavored by bias-view, for more than a WHOLE GENERATION , already

Real easy to unsettle the Brethren (this explain reason for why they’ll never dare to allow themselves to venture outside their info-bubble, to enter into discussion, among outsiders

They cannot afford to do so?

They’ll be so-easily shown-up ,to be backward, in knowledge…. Even bible knowledge as well too

So see those poor Brethren, they really don’t like to need to feel that tension

Do they?

Just cant handle the jandle

Yeah nah

Because, of reason how it QUICKLY feels “so uncomfortable”

They can easily feel uncomfortable, because, even although they’ve found a way so as to all allow themselves, to bury their conscience away out of site and out of mind

I still require so very little, thought, before the conscience gets quickly resurrected  real-fast-as AGAIN

Truth can SO-EASILY have that affect on human

And therefore the gang leaders, or the Taliban leader,or Cults leaders, or even leaders of any high-control dictatorship regime

They all understand this too

They also sense that the-truth is a danger unto their own grasp on power

They can sense that

Brethren cult leader,are absolutely no different either

They cant help but fear the truth

Why?

Well simply because of reason how its actually so blatantly obvious, to sense the way that Brethren cult has been constantly acting alongside immense amount of evil

For well over a whole generation now already

All those Brethren member. They all also secretly still understand how they have ALL remain as a associated part of it too

Secretly, deep down, where their conscience lays buried away, they’ll all know-it. Sense its so (even all the while they’ll be pretending like as if they don’t)

However

They’ve all decided to stick to the easy road

That’s been the problem

They didn’t bother to “separate themselves from” the cults ongoing evil manner. Did they?.  They never bothered to take that tough road of what in turn might likely required them to have need to experience “hardship of being separated” from member of their families . Did they?

Yeah nah

Those folk preferred to bury their conscience

To pretend like as if like “they hadn’t EVER been any the wiser” as to what kind of immense evil they’d ALL allowed themselves to remain ASSOCIATED with

So therefore when a person has buried their conscience , this deeply

Then little wonder ?

Then very little wonder then.That when old Brucie review wrecker Hales , become overcome by EXTREME GREED, uses the Brethren bullshit review, as a way to create a CUNNING Public relation scam, a scam to the level of which i can attest had very nearly even gone to the extent to cause ANOTHER SUICIDE. A bullshit facade of a Brethren review, of the kind of like what would BE BOUND TO leave even way more extensive great sense-of sadness and despair , in it’s wake

Then how the Brethren react ?

Mostly, in the main part they didn’t actually even care at all about that happening

Did they?

Absolutely no sense of remorse

Yeah nah .. They STILL didn’t bother to care

Not even after this situation, of what should have served to help make it become blatantly CLEAR,  to Brethren member, that the group of whom they choose to remain ASSOCIATED

Is nothing short of a COLD HEARTED CULT

The poor poor Brethren

Poor of heart. So poor of heart

Due to being overcome by THEIR insatiable GREED  for MONEY

“Greed from money”, can overcome any possibility, for a “sense of remorse” ,to exist among Brethren

Wont it?

GREED  for money is become “like-God” among Brethren

 

Hasn’t it?

The Brethren, they’ve sold their souls , for money

In return, they’ve ALL became IMMENSELY POOR OF HEART

Makes me wonder

What place for the EXTREMELY POOR “OF HEART” people, will Brethren ASSOCIATE  expect they’ll find within the resurrection?

WHAT real USE,  would Jesus have, for the “immensely POOR OF HEART”, types of people

What reason would Jesus have need to be including them for ?

WTF?

Where in the hell are the backward bogan Brethren heads at ?

They must be stupid

Surely?

What in the hell role would Jesus ever have any use for a group of these nasty cult-people all of whom have freely accepted their role as being the-GREEDY MONEY HUNGRY people whom are also IMMENSELY POOR of heart

Yeah nah

WTF?

What kind of rapture , is it, of what these brain dead cult associate envisage ?

HOW can they remain so blind

The poor things

1.NO conscience (its long been well and truly buried,out of sight and out of mind)

2. No real honest compassion (basically become so poor of heart, they wont even shed a tear even in times when its their own family members, who’d suffer extremely)

3. No true empathy (Brethren empathy, only exist as a measure to try and help secure charity status= IE: its a complete sham set-up which is designed to secure MORE-MONEY)

And yet, there is many Brethren ,who still have faith, that they’ll be offered a place , “in a rapture”

Where are these peoples heads at ?

What use would Jesus ever have for the hard hearted GREEDY bunch of MONEY HUNGRY “brethren associate”

What use?

What “use would there be” for those kind of people

I  have a strong feeling, that i can sense that the very last place, that anyone of us human , would ever want to be found to be, should there ever come a time , when a rapture would arrive

Would be, to dare to be associated with Brethren

Jesus was not really that interested in the hard hearted people

 

Was he?

I cant see that he were

Most certainly didn’t have much time for the money changers anyway. The GREEDY money HUNGRY fools, who’d ALL been FAR more interest in “maintaining TRADITION

Rather than maintaining a good sense of kindheartedness

Those muppet yo yo’s who’d all REMAINED so COLD HEARTED fundamentalist, that they’d therefore also still remained staunchly adamant , that TRADITION should alway’s have need to remain-strong “first and foremost” above all else .

So that even single mothers might still then be required to have need to spend their money, first-off,  by buying animal to sacrifice ,”to serve-to-God”

Like as if God would be seen as some egotistical creep, who’d always require to have his butt-licked, even if it might then in affect also mean, that the single women’s children might then need to be left to be hungry for food, and have no decent clothes on their back

Rather than to first feed and clothe their own children

This is the outcome of Greed. The outcome of the nature of a cold heart outlook on life

God has been pictured as being some needy-being, who ego gets hurt, unless he’d have million upon million of human being, constantly pampering, and worshiping him, day and night, until the end of their living days on earth

As if

As is , a-God …. A “good” and “a kind” God. An all powerful God

Would ever have any-need to ever be, this way

As if

Little wonder today then, that almost the whole of Christendom is seen to be in such utter disgrace . Greed for money. And poor cold hearted nature

Is been able to have become still remained rife within Christendom today

Hasn’t it

Hasn’t it ?

The hope for real change. The renewed hope. Was lost… After the time they’d nailed Jesus to cross

Why would Jesus be in any real hurry to return ?

Makes me wonder, why Christian would be inclined to still think Jesus might be in any real-hurry to return here

Imagine the extent of embarrassment , to face

Imagine it?

Imagine the full extent of it of what has BEEN ALLOWED  to develop

ALL OF WHAT  so called “real Christian”, have stood by,in silence, and HAVE HELPED TO ALLOW  to continue, unhindered

PRETENDING

While still pretending that it might have anything so much to do with

“true honest religious liberty”

Christians often seem “far more worried and fearful about”  pain and shame of what could perhaps need to be experience by Christendom

They’d seem to feel more anxious about the thought of that happening

Don’t they?

This situation (IE: Christian sense of shame) seem to always matter, to sense of Christian pride, even way-above any THOUGHTS of the pain experienced by the people who’d actually experienced the sex abuse

Those people…. Yeah nah… Thought about them… gets relegated second place

In a real hurry?

Don’t it?

“Pride of Church” ..matters far more than anything else ever does

Correct?

I guess , partly because of how the sense of pride, would also still always  retain an almost inseparable connection to their ability to still retain ongoing cash-flow (IE: greed)

MONEY’S BECOME like ….. THE-GOD-of-CHRISTENDOM

Hasn’t it ?

Brethren are no different?. Brethren seem worse. Because,they’ve believed themselves to be in a place-above , any of the other non exclusive Brethren, believers

Brethrenism is seen to be like “the Christianity-plus-movement”

(IE: Christian pride-plus movement)

Brethren pride has been about pride of the highest level

Hasn’t it?

Brethren =  wealthiest extreme state of pride to the maximum extent + extremely POOR OF HEART state

= Brethren 101

If i were still an associated among Brethren.

I’d certainly be inclined to be totally dreading the thought that a-rapture might ever arrive

I would

And i feel blessed to have been intelligent enough, to choose to leave

If Brethren beliefs would indeed be correct. Then chances are that perhaps the following sound might even end up being sound of the Brethren congregation, of associate’s, all singing-together

But then at the end of the day, chances are that perhaps Bruce Hales wont even actually be “a believer, anyway .Will he?. More likely he’ll just be quietly playing-along-with the game. Like what so many “believers” will also do

He’s just busily milking the cash-cow for as much as it can offer

Or what?

Can you imagine the RAPTURE ARRIVING … And then ole Brucie review wrecker Hales , blunders up the forefront of the congregation, as the sublime head honcho …. so called”divine” minister of the recovery serving to lead Brethren toward ….. THEIR SALVATION

Hands forth his credential,as head poo-bar morally just minister of the Brethren recovery (https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/98220593/potential-witness-in-exclusive-brethren-sex-abuse-case-paid-to-remain-silent) . for the the lord Jesus Christ to study and contemplate

Make you wonder, why don’t more of the youth, today, decide to step up and tell the man “where to go”

Makes you wonder ?

Seems to me , that the Brethren might perhaps even still have some way in which to question the legality of the way that they’ve been fleeced

But they’d certainly have need to begin to do so … a.s.a.p

 

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Betrayal and its effects

I doubt that Brethren would have enough social understanding , so as “to understand” the affect that their cults way of being ,will have had on family member who have experienced the Brethren anti social methods

People who by now have no conscience, therefore no compassion, and have become completely void of true honest empathy, will have basically become psychopath

Psychopath are not the kind of people who we could ever expect to have good grasp of social understanding . Or good grasp of knowledge of how their anti social behavior, will affect others, either

Brethren mainly just focus on becoming wealthy. They are that stupid they don’t even realize how badly they are being ripped-off themselves .Like when they allow themselves to be ruled-over, so that they are not even allowed to celebrate special family occasion, such as birthdays, or weddings anymore

Brethren bogan wont have enough nous to re-considder their own state of affair

Therefore ,there is simply not a hope in hell, that these socially backward bogan Brethren,would ever think to re-consider their action, in regard to what kind of social-affect, it might have on family ex member

The thing is

It feel bad enough for human to feel betrayed by any other citizen in life

But become way worse felling, when one learn that their own family are a pack of deceitful liars. Who now have absolutely no conscience. No compassion. And therefore no empathy, even for members of their own flesh and blood

From my own experience. The Brethren review was like the last straw. Because, when Brethren family had arrived on my doorstep,after not even having heard from them for the past twenty years or more

It were natural,that i would wish to take my Brethrens family word, as if it would be the honest truth

Therefore i was freely able to accept the thought that they come to say they were honestly sorry, for the way in which i’d been mistreated, by Brethren’s antisocial manner, within the past

I had felt extremely joyful.Joyful to think that i might have family, who’s word was reliable, and honest and heart felt

Sadly this was not the reality. The reality, of what would later become clear to me, was that this visit from family member, was merely a manipulative scheme of what had been designed by their cult leader, old Brucie review wrecker Hales .

The process was more focused on Brethren cult ability to continue to retain their grip on charity status. In affect the visit revolved around GREED 

And ever since that time, any further contact ive had with my family ,has only served to further convince me, that Brethren bogan wouldn’t even know what the true meaning of love was ,anymore

They now have become so psychopathic . They now don’t even have ability,needed, so as to understand any better

Just continue to act like a bunch of brainwashed cult-minded yo yo’s . If Brucie review wrecker Hales were to say “jump” Brethren “jump” , they’d do no more than to meekly ask “how high should we jump” Brucie .

 

And would you like us all to “to suck your butt” too on the way back down too Brucie

Money is become like-God to us now. We don’t even mind if we’d need to be made to look like a large bunch of brainless yo yo’s, either

Even if we only have one life to live. We will happily agree to sacrifice ,the great experience of sharing our families birthdays, and marriages , and not even spend any holiday together at the beach over Christmas

Just so we can become like a bunch of brain-dead yo yo butt-licker’s , who’ll all be quite happy to continually brown nose up to you Brucie review wrecker Hales. We’d always be ready to “jump” at any time, in any given moment, that you’d demand us to do so

What in hell is wrong with Brethren heads ?

Even the Children, their lives are set to become like wheel of work-horses , designed entirely to make a cult-hierarchy become extremely wealthy

And Brethren being the brain dead socially backward bogan that they are. Most likely wont even dare to question it

High chance that they wont

Brucie review wrecker Hales could possibly instruct the Brethren to all jump over a cliff

I’d say that there’ll be a fairly good chance that fair number of Brethren would do little more other , than to still just think about “following orders

Betrayal of any type, can have terrible affect on the human. See this video below, for instance

 

Betrayal among friends can feel bad enough. But betrayal among family ?

That feeling can make a human being be forced to wonder ,who it is, in this world, that they can ever afford to trust ever again

Reality is, we cannot always even afford to trust our police, either. I happen to know this fact for certain

.Anyone who question this thought, should really be opening their eyes a little, and be doing some real research into the question. You’d be wrong to believe that our police force can ever be trusted, simply because they will be in possession of a police badge .

Get real

Reality is that our society is become chocca full of people who’d no longer value honesty. This fact is highlighted most,of all, when we also observe that amount of cases of sex abuses, of what Christendom has sort to cover up and sweep under the carpet

Not only do we now have good reason to doubt the love of our own family. We now also have very good reason to doubt the whole of Christendom as well too. Therefore to doubt the police, also, is merely like another side-issue of what so much of our whole society, has turned into, at large

Brethren

Poor poor Brethren

Immensely poor of heart 

So poor of heart, in fact, that even family their own flesh and blood, “could be forgiven”, for struggling to ever feel like they can dare to ever trust them,ever again

That’s how poor OF HEART that the Brethren have allowed themselves to have become

The Brethren agreed to allow it to happen to themselves?

Didn’t they

When Brucie review wrecker Hales says jump . Jump and do this and do that… And  then “don’t even stop to ponderover any thought of how “said action” might have any detrimental affect, on feelings of your own flesh and bloods ability to feel like they might still be wise to “still trust you”

What do Brethren do?

“They just hurriedly step forward and jump “

Like a bunch of “brain dead” yo yo’s

Eckhard Tolle helps to put the situation in proper perspective

Brethren are basically acting within the “level of ability of their own consciousness ”

Which with Brethren, is about as low as a human being level of consciousnesses can become (IE:socially retarded to the max)

See here

Its the reality?

Brethren lives, have been able to become so socially retarded

They are now become completely unconscious to the fact that they will willingly even agree, to lie, to member of their own family

That’s how Brethren have become-like in a nut shell ?

“Unconscious Brethren”

“Extremely unconscious Brethren”

So completely unconscious in fact, that they’ll choose to agree to lie to their own family member who are ex member of their cult , and yet the Brethren ,wont even stop to think twice about choosing to take part in doing it

 

Brucie review wrecker Hales says … “Jump Brethren Jump”

Brethren , without even giving it a second thought , will just automatically ALL promptly start jumping together, and ask “how high should we ALL jump”, Brucie ?

Almost in a very young baby styled “child-like” unconscious way

I wont let anger me. Because, once we really stop to think about what actually happening here

We can then see reason to feel sorry for the Brethren

The Brethren ,they are the ones who’ve lost out most of all

Poor Brethren

Poor of heart

For they are the ones who’ve agreed to choose to throw away their own right to claim authenticity , their right to claim to be acting honestly

They preferred to follow the order of Review wrecker Hales

Accepting GREED  as their main focus in life

When we look upon them in the street. We even talk about ,how we see ,that the Brethren eyes will all have that “dead look” , to them

They have become like the living dead

The Brethren socially backward bogan zombie

No longer even know how to be honest in dealing with family member of their own flesh and blood

We ex eb’s all now know how we cannot afford to even trust them

How sad to be Brethren, the people who are no longer even able to rightfully claim to be trustworthy unto member of their own family

This state…. is a state among the “lowest” of low  .. of human beings

 

Beings that cannot claim to be trustworthy … among members of their own family

They don’t even seem to give it a second thought, either?

Do they

Very much like as if they might have “become unconscious” … of life

Poor things

Once i begin to look at my experience of betrayal, from this angle

Its the Brethren folk that i then can begin to feel “most sorry” for

They lost their own credibility

Didn’t they?

Within the bullshit review, the Brethren followed along behind the dictate of Brucie review wrecker Hales, and his craving for GREED of money

Meanwhile Brethren lost any right to credibly claim to be honest

That right was lost

Sold -out due to following after their pathway of greed

Meanwhile they had also became extremely poor of heart 

So poor of heart, that even their family, can now no longer dare trust that their word will amount to “being truthfully honest”

Worst of though

Chances are that the Brethren wont even care

For they don’t have any sense of conscience anymore now either

No conscience = no compassion= no real true honest empathy

Not even in regard to member of their own family,either

Lowest of the low 

Isn’t it?

How much lower, in life, can a human-being ever become ?

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Plymouth Brethren “Rapid Charity” in Action

Who we are

Who We Are

Compassion in Action

Learn more about how we support communities in times of need

Quote:

 

Plymouth Brethren have “a reputation” for looking after “people”

 

That’s what they like to do “evidently “. According to their  PR campaign video claims ?

Us Brethren have a reputation for “looking after” people

Rada rada rada

Check it out, for your self, within the link ive posted above (IE: the,”who we are”,link). Watch through the video .Hopefully they wont quickly rush-in to alter the video, before you check it out (Brethren do happen to have a reputation for altering details.Alter detail to suit their agenda. Can chop and change “like the wind”. So much so,that they even alter the name that their cult is to be known by . IE: from Exclusive Brethren , changed over to Plymouth Brethren. Because, Plymouth Brethren name is not so widely-known ,among citizen outside Brethren, to be associated with harmful practice. In other words the name change was purposely done, for agenda of benefit of “better public relation” campaign )

After you’ve watched the video, then check this antic from the leader son

This here details following below

Quote:

Exclusive Brethren cult leader’s millionaire son accused of assault

 

https://www.theage.com.au/national/exclusive-brethren-cult-leader-s-millionaire-son-accused-of-assault-20200120-p53t41.html

end quote

 

 

Check it out

Be sure to watch through the video

“Plymouth Brethren Charity in Action evidently”

Is it?

“Caring about people”

Brethren folk have “such a great reputation” …. evidently ?

Well,at least, that’s what they want the citizen general public to believe

“we are charitable Brethren who care about people”

Look at the bully, Gareth Hales,picking on the “real tiny” small guy. Pushing the little guy around, and standing over him (like as if it makes Gareth “feel big”)

 

These people are Christian evidently?

Their church even still gets issued with charity status

Something very wrong with our governments with the way what they still support these “hard line” nasty type religious groups of what have ruined many a family. Even been the root cause of a fair number of suicide too over the years

See info here https://web.archive.org/web/20131204204302/http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=0da5bf29853dae314c62617a0e52aa6d

I doubt that they’d support the Taliban , by issuing the Taliban with charity status too

Would they? ( IE:our governments)

Evidently you can get away with all manner of other dangerous nasty antic, so long as you don’t go “quite so far” as to bomb people

Our government have allow these religious group to cause C-PTSD

This is brain damage. Causes long term harm. So long term in fact, that it can even alter the human DNA , at the epigentic level. Meaning the harm is so extensive that it will even go-on to harm the following generation, as well too (IE: it causes a change in DNA , at an epigentic level, for the ex cult members children ,and perhaps even the children’s “children”)

We should be suing our governments .Our government are supposed to uphold all citizen right for health and safety

Here in NZ, our government is so far behind the ball-play. They wont even cover us ex cult citizen,via ACC, for brain damage caused through C-PTSD , from ongoing trauma caused by cults that can meanwhile still collect “charity status” .

Think about that

How is that good-use of citizens tax collection ?

Even husband and wife, have been forced into separation,and therefore been tortured through shunning . There have been constant attempt to commit suicide. At times there has been need for doctors to intervene, before the doctors-client would die of starvation combined with extreme heartbreak , upon having their wife and children removed from their family home, so that the Brethren hierarchy might then be able to apply the torture-via affect of-shunning

I can attest to situation like what ive just detailed above. We can even supply doctors records, as evidence of the above scenario having actually occurred as well too

What in the hell’s wrong with our governments ?

Whats wrong with their sense of moral value ?

Why do they still issue charity status to these type groups

Why they issue charity status to groups who actively support family dysfunction  

Why?

How is this good value for citizens tax collected

 

If i ever over to Australia. I’m promptly going around to that Hales address, to take videos, myself, from the public footpath

Yep,you bet ya

Damn right i will

All us ex eb’s should all make a point of making sure to ALL go and do so

Let it turn into our own type of pilgrimage

We go there,so as to remember, the nasty bullshit review. The review that wasn’t actually honest. The review of what were designed by Bruce review wrecker Hales, so as to settle the heat, of impending media exposure that had been expected to arise at that time

The cunning plan that was still focused on Greed, rather than being any real honest attempt at apologizing

These “so called” Christian ,are in dire need of being taught a real good lesson. Being taught that they are not above the law,and that in fact the public footpath , is to remain public

The footpath is public property

We also have need to begin taking our own van (one that’s purposely set up to be equipped to be used for act of peaceful protest. One what will include capability to show video media. And be equipped to hand out pamphlets of what would “thoroughly-detail” ALL OF the Brethren atrocity) around to everywhere where they set up their rapid relief team van.

So that the citizen (including fireman) can then at least receive info, so as to become more aware of the other side of the story

This act of Gareth should be turned into “a positive” occurrence, by way of serving to help push-forward our-motivation. And to consolidate our determination to see justice

Whats wrong with the Brethren?

 

Wake up Brethren

You people have been turned into terribly hard hearted people

You Brethren must have become completely void of conscience

You have even stood alongside evil people who have conspired to sweep sex abuses under the carpet

They conspired to hide the evidence

Going so far as to create

 “Services and Confidentiality Deed”

agreement

Using money, to pay-off the whistle blower

See here https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/98220593/potential-witness-in-exclusive-brethren-sex-abuse-case-paid-to-remain-silent

Brethren

Where is your conscience Brethren?

No conscience

No honest compassion

Void of true honest empathy

Poor Brethren 

Wealthy in cash

And yet have therefore become (flip side)

Immensely  poor of heart

Those Brethren were willing tosell their own soul for money

Poor Brethren

 

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Brethren conscience been pricked?

Poor Brethren

They must have sleepless nights?. Always trying to “cover up” details of their “real dodgy” past

Kind of like a cat what constantly chasing-around its own tail

The Brethren seriously lack a conscience so badly, they’d possibly far rather to try and silence people

They’ll rather try to do any other than to ever simply admit to their bad testimony

Wont they?

See this former post of mine here

https://yobeauty.wordpress.com/2019/08/11/on-a-brethren-sunday-morning-coming-down/

Scroll down to where you can see there is sign of an audio player on this blog post. Click on it . Note how its now no longer working.

 

Here is a quote of what now comes up when i now try to revert back to original site of the link

This link here http://wikipeebia.com/audio/aberdeen.mp3

Quote

 

 

end quote

Did Brethren use their money power so as to silence the link ?

I wonder

I most certainly wouldn’t put it past the Brethren to choose to do so.

I wouldn’t

You cannot trust Brethren. They will even go so far as to “like to consider” themselves, as if being more powerful than the law. That’s how “out of touch” with reality,they are

They certainly like to deny the truth of their dirty linen anyway

That’s for real

I can sure attest to the fact of that too. And whats more, i even feel if push were to ever come to shove, i can attest to the fact that old Brucie review wrecker, wont even mind to get personally involved “right in the thick” of these kind of things too, when it might come to the act of trying to help master mind & direct the proceeding of a cover-up process

Yeah,you bet cha

Aye Brucie ?

I figure you’ll be right their in among the thick of it too, wont chaa, when it comes to helping to manipulate the proceedings. Well , at least that’s been my conclusion, from my own observation” of the past-proceeding of all what had happen within the time of the Brethren bullshit review , Bruce

You were right their in “among the thick of it”, aye Bruce,even so far as giving direction/order by phone

That’s the direct info feed back i was receiving, via my Brethren family, right at that time, anyway Bruce

I feel confident that chances are, there’d be a way to still double re-check phone call too, anyways. Should police ever need to get involved

Plus i can now also still acquire “witness”

 

You Brethren want to wake up. This situation isn’t ever going away . There is no way for Brethren-money to ever completely white wash and re-write history

No way

Following below, is the “wayback machine link” to very same Aberdeen meeting audio recording , of what i just searched-for and found

https://web.archive.org/web/20190613182805/http://wikipeebia.com/audio/aberdeen.mp3

You folk have need to begin to get real

When will you all ever wake up ?

For Christs sake

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Faithful can be worse off than the unbeliever

I still contemplate the callous way in which the Brethren acted within the review. Makes me really wonder, how many of them will have actually remained true-believers.

How many?

At the end of the day, the review was master minded as a way to protect Brethren’s own interests.

Brucie review wrecker Hales had masterminded a way to con ex member, like myself, into believing that the Brethren had honestlytruly regretted” the way in which them and their Brethren-group had been involved in badly mistreating so many of us ex ebs. Ruining our families lives. Even so far as to be causing long term epigentic changes to happen, to our families DNA, via affect extreme trauma

To be fair to Brethren. Sadly they have become socially backward. Educationally backward as well. We might as well say the Brethren growth has been sent on a backward trend,almost in every way, especially so to since the time when Jame Taylor Jr had become leader

Chances are they wont have clue about depth of harm they helped to cause

Not that this can ever act as any decent excuse

Perhaps the only “main growth” among Brethren is been entirely tied to their insatiable craving for greed for money. Greed for money has even sent the Brethren’s conscience on a backward trend as well. Along with their ability for true compassion. Plus their real ability to feel empathy

Brethren have basically become little more than cold hearted bunch of yo yo’s , who have been brain washed into following a one track destination that been designed to make money become their-God

Poor Brethren

Very Poor people. Extremely poor of conscience. Extremely poor of  honest compassion. Void of true empathy that therefore wouldn’t ever be focused on money-goal

I bet those Brethren who look at my blog. Will be inclined to look upon me as if i’d be in the worst position, considering the way how i’m an atheist

Wouldn’t they?

You could almost guarantee it. They will have become so accustomed to taking an outward approach to enacting judgment upon others

While never ever BOTHERING to take any “inward approach” to judging

Wouldn’t it be so?

I’d hazard to guess so. I’d hazard to guess so, after contemplating the Brethren antics. For instance, the MANIPULATIVE way they can seem to see very little wrong with ways what they enacted self serving changes, to “bare minimum affect”, so as to help maintain Brethren cults option to claim charity status

The way that members of their hierarchy , including some of my own flesh and blood family member, have proved themselves to be more than willing to try and sweep knowledge of sex abuses, under the carpet. With some, even being well aware of how old Brucie review wrecker Hales was also been made fully aware of what had in fact occurred. Which in turn, therefore explains why he had taken it upon himself, to order our Brethren family,to suddenly arrive on our doorstep, to put on a Brethren-charade, in pretending to be “honest” in saying sorry to us

And yet the review, was actually never anything more than a self serving deliberately designed manipulative scheme, to serve to hopefully help shelter Brethren from scrutiny

There was never any honest  remorse  (on the Brethren’s part)

Brethren are become totally void of a conscience. They have basically “mostly all” turned into a bunch of brainwashed yo yo’s with “highly psychopathic” attribute

See info here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

Take good note of how “so many of the symptom” would definitely seem to fit Brethren to the T

Poor Brethren

Poor poor poor poor Brethren

Wealthy in money…. And yet EXTREMELY POOR of heart, and conscience, and honest compassion, and pretty much completely void of true empathy

Poor Brethren

I bet that those Brethren will very intently read all of the greedy orientated dictate that ole Brucie review wrecker Hales will sent out among Brethren

They’d easily be stupid enough to do so?

I hazard to guess so. I can see it happening. After all, those fdolk have been busily de-evolving backward toward a more and more socially backward inhumane state of being

Over a time frame of “whole generation” now

They now possibly wont see way in which to know any better?

Poor Brethren

The poor things. Wealthy in cash. Yet poor in knowledge.Very poor of heart. Extremely poor in conscience. Poor of true compassion. Almost void of honest empathy

The poor people

How did it happen ?. Why did it happen.

Its hard to believe that a large group of people, whom have been willing to twist the truth. Whom have also remained so acutely focused on greed. Whom have even ALL been party to being a part of the base-cause for a number of suicides  https://web.archive.org/web/20131204204302/http://wikipeebia.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14&sid=0da5bf29853dae314c62617a0e52aa6d

Who exist among followers of a ministry of believers who’d ALL allowed themselves to become party to abusive disgusting degrading bully-type-tactic’s of a drunken moron name James Taylor Jr

See info here http://www.discourses.org.uk/History/TheAberdeenIncident.pdf

Would then bother to consider that being know to be “an atheist” could ever be seen as the very worst thing that anyone of us, should have good reason to need to feel really so-worried, about being

Why in the hell would they think that might be so bad?

I mean, you’d need to wonder how often they’d have read their bibles. You’d need to wonder if they cherry pick which scripture to take good note of

I wonder what the Brethren would have to say about 1 Timothy 5:8

Quote:

But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith and is worse than an infidel.
But if any provideth not for his own, and specially his own household, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.
If anyone fails to provide for his own, and especially for those of his own family, he has denied the faith [by disregarding its precepts] and is worse than an unbeliever [who fulfills his obligation in these matters].
If anyone fails to provide for his relatives, and especially for those of his own family, he has disowned the faith [by failing to accompany it with fruits] and is worse than an unbeliever [who performs his obligation in these matters].
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
But if anyone does not provide for his own family, especially for his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But if someone doesn’t provide for their own family, and especially for a member of their household, they have denied the faith. They are worse than those who have no faith.
Moreover, anyone who does not provide for his own people, especially for his family, has disowned the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
People who don’t take care of their relatives, and especially their own families, have given up their faith. They are worse than someone who doesn’t have faith in the Lord.
But if any one does not provide for his own, and specially for those of [his] house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than the unbeliever.
But if anyone does not provide-for his own relatives, and especially family-members, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But if any man have not care of his own, and especially of those of his house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
Everyone should take care of all their own people. Most important, they should take care of their own family. If they do not do that, then they do not accept what we believe. They are worse than someone who does not even believe in God.
But if anyone does not provide for his own family, and especially for his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Whoever does not care for his ·own relatives [L own], especially his own family members, has ·turned against [denied; rejected] the faith and is worse than ·someone who does not believe in God [L an unbeliever].
If there be any that provideth not for his own, and namely for them of his household, he denieth the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
If anyone doesn’t take care of his own relatives, especially his immediate family, he has denied the Christian faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But if any do not take care of their relatives, especially the members of their own family, they have denied the faith and are worse than an unbeliever.
But if anyone does not provide for his own, that is his own household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
A believer should take care of his own relatives, especially his own family. If he does not do that, he has turned against the faith. He is worse than a person who does not believe in God.
If anyone does not take care of his own relatives, especially his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
1. You should make it clear that for a man to refuse to look after his own relations, especially those actually living in his house, is a denial of the faith he professes. He is far worse than a man who makes no profession.
But if any provide not for his own and specially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
But if someone does not provide for his own relatives, and especially the members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But anyone who won’t care for his own relatives when they need help, especially those living in his own family, has no right to say he is a Christian. Such a person is worse than the heathen.
Take care of widows who are destitute. If a widow has family members to take care of her, let them learn that religion begins at their own doorstep and that they should pay back with gratitude some of what they have received. This pleases God immensely. You can tell a legitimate widow by the way she has put all her hope in God, praying to him constantly for the needs of others as well as her own. But a widow who exploits people’s emotions and pocketbooks—well, there’s nothing to her. Tell these things to the people so that they will do the right thing in their extended family. Anyone who neglects to care for family members in need repudiates the faith. That’s worse than refusing to believe in the first place.
But if any do not care for their own, and especially for those of their own house, they have denied the faith and are worse than unbelievers.
But if anyone does not care for · his own, · especially his household members, he has disowned the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
If anyone doesn’t take care of his own relatives, especially his immediate family, he has denied the Christian faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
And whoever does not provide for relatives and especially family members has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Whoever does not care for his own relatives, especially his own family members, has turned against the faith and is worse than someone who does not believe in God.
But if someone does not provide for his own, especially his own family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Everyone should provide for their own relatives. Most of all, everyone should take care of their own family. If they don’t, they have left the faith. They are worse than someone who doesn’t believe.
Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
Anyone who does not take care of his family and those in his house has turned away from the faith. He is worse than a person who has never put his trust in Christ.
But those who won’t care for their relatives, especially those in their own household, have denied the true faith. Such people are worse than unbelievers.
But if there be anyone who does not provide for his own, and particularly for those of his household, the same denies the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
And whoever does not provide for relatives, and especially for family members, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
And whoever does not provide for relatives, and especially for family members, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
And whoever does not provide for relatives, and especially for family members, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
And whoever does not provide for relatives, and especially for family members, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
If anyone doesn’t take care of their own relatives, especially their own household, they have denied the faith; they are worse than unbelievers.
But if anyone does not get a parnasah to provide for his own mishpochah and especially his own bais, he has denied the emunah [of Moshiach] and is worse than an Apikoros (skeptic, unbeliever).
For if a believer fails to provide for their own relatives when they are in need, they have compromised their convictions of faith and need to be corrected, for they are living worse than the unbelievers.
If there is anyone who does not look out for his own, and namely for those of his household, he denies the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
If any one does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his own family, he has disowned the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
If any one does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his own family, he has disowned the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
But if anyone does not provide for his own, especially those in his own house, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
And listen, if someone is not providing for his own relatives and especially his own household, then he is denying the faith and is worse off than an unbeliever.
But if anyone doesn’t provide for his own, and especially his own household, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an unbeliever.
A man must care for his own people. At least he must care for his family. If he does not care for them, he shows that he does not believe in God. He is worse than one who has never believed.
For if any man hath not care of his own, and most(ly) of his household members, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an unfaithful man [and is worse than an unfaithful, or heathenman].
and if any one for his own — and especially for those of the household — doth not provide, the faith he hath denied, and than an unbeliever he is worse.

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/1%20Timothy%205%3A8

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Brethren would need to be the

“epitome”

Of what it would be, to be people who’d not even care to give a damn about their own family

Wouldn’t they?

I certainly don’t lose any sleep over the fact that im an atheist anymore. That’s for real

Why would i have any good reason to bother?

After we would first stop to consider the Christian folk, as example

Most of them, most certainly don’t seem to ever follow in the footstep of Jesus

They’d ALL more than happily walk on by, turn away, and leave you for dead

This is what help to explain reason for why cults can still  find a place to easily exist within our world today

It’ll explain, why they’ll sit-back quietly and accept religious tyranny, under the pretense of religious liberty, as if it could be honestlyacceptable” as amounting to true freedom of religion

Basically the whole of Christendom is been happily setting a bad example

So,perhaps heaven could end up being a mighty lonely place?

Make you stop and wonder, how many “so called believer”, are actually honestly real-believers after all

At the end of the day, as an atheist, at least i can still say that i’m honestly following my instinct. Being honest in saying how i simply don’t “see evidence”, in which to help make me believe

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Journey to Christ

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Inspiring testimony by Jonathan Cahn. Notice his reference to “The Late Great Planet Earth” about halfway through the video. My family and I separated from JT Jr after the Aberdeen/New York incidents in late 1970, and this book was a blessing to me and other brethren with whom we fellowshipped in the early 1970s.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/5658649590/permalink/10157953580514591/

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The guy in the video above seems to see his survival with the train accident as a “direct sign” that a-God must therefore exist. The fact that human can survive direct hit from train,and loads of other type accident, it is not necessarily anything all that unusual.

Is it?

No its not necessarily anything all so-unusual. Really

This is the-reality of the matter

Its not something all so unusual. People can escape all kind of dangerous situation. Earthquake, fire, even some head-on train accidents too

It happens.Its a fairly common phenomena. There are amazing story of different types of amazing survival, all around the world. And they also happen to people from within all walks of life too.

So therefore there also seem to be no real rhyme or  rhythm to how it happens.

Does there?

No not really. There is no real rhyme or rhythm to how it happens

However, a better question to ask, could be this following one.

Why do we not openly see phenomena which could be claimed to be highly “uncommon” 

Why?

That’s a far more important question

Like for instance,we should be interested to know how come “the God” isn’t seeming to bother to take DIRECT interest in cults that continue to cause SO MANY PEOPLE harm?

How come?

Why would the-God prefer to be far more interested to make himself known via way of the “far more highly common” type phenomena

Why so?

This valid question should surely deserve to be addressed?

Seems rather odd that the-God might decide to show existence of himself via random accident, of which are already very wildly highly common occurrences anyway, right around the world. So common in fact, that we human would then also be caused big trouble to try and “decipher the true difference” between what deserve to be classed as being true miracle, and then what might be best to be classed as being just fairly common phenomena

And yet

Meanwhile

Things such as “hidden sex abuse within the Catholic Church” , should be left to remain unhindered.

Not even the slightest inkling  is made available to help suggest that a-God is perhaps active

No sign

There is absolutely no sign to be seen at all, to suggest that a-God might be active in trying to PURPOSELY  get a message through to the church

Or any cult organization ?

Evidently a-God will only ever try and work through random situation,of what are also fairly common situation that are actually already occurring constantly anyway, to all manner of people . As such also honestly cannot be looked upon as being “anything so far out the ordinary

Its nothing so far out of the ordinary

Is it?

Theist should try to be honest

Is it so unusual?

Is it?

I’ll never understand why the theist don’t catch on to this themselves?

Note in the video, how the guy is allowing himself to be dramatically “carried away in affect of all the emotion” . See how he is busily actively involved in “highly dramatizing” the situation

Even his own body language is showing how he’s actively involved in trying to “help dramatize” the situation

Making a great charade “show” out of phenomena of what is actually not known to be “so-uncommon”

They make a “big song and dance” over occurrence of what are in fact generally fairly common occurrence

But he need to try and help dramatize it?

So as it might then help make it to “seem like” its some phenomena which is perhaps highly abnormal

That’s why?

Because this is drama being designed for benefit of his intended audience

And yet, i could also almost guarantee 100%, that this same man wont ever bother to dramatize the thought of the question of like what ive raised here within my blog post today.

You’ll never see this man “making a big-deal”,out of “the question” as to why a-God would never ever be observed to act in openly active way ,toward tackling ongoing faith abuses.

Which involve religious “organizations”

Abuses of what also REMAIN  widespread

Like” how come it hasn’t been seen to be cult leaders whom have near miss with a train accident

How come ?

How come review wrecker Bruce Hales, the head hierarchy of a group of lying scoundrel , having even actively tried to conceal evidence of sex abuse, and so on

Wont experience his jet failing mechanically in mid air

How come?

This scenario here, could then at least serve to be seen as actually being phenomena of what could then be said to be a fairly uncommon phenomena

Correct?

This here is a far more interesting discussion? .

Far more important?

 

So called “miracle” of like what this man is pointing toward. Are  fairly common. Dime a dozen.So highly common in fact, that nobody who’d want to be bluntly honest, would ever bother to pretend-like as if they were “such uncommon” phenomena

Or

They’d need to someone who’d be “easilycarried away within emotion

Due to being caught up in emotion,therefore they’d also be able to “easily overlook“the “highly common nature” of the so called miracle occurrence , as well too

And also be more inclined to overlook the serious lack of any evidence, to suggest that a-God , might actively act , in producing miracle of the kind of what might serve to help stem the flow of ongoing ORGANIZED faith abuses

To see those situation being addressed, then that would then surely need to be seen (by us all) as actually being

“a real uncommon miracle “

Wouldn’t it

Yes it would.It surely would

These are important question that are worth consideration

Aren’t they?

The are valid question of what should at least deserve to be contemplated

But will many theist ever bother to do so?

Will they?

I doubt it

I have big doubt they ever would. I have doubt that the theist can escape from the clutches of the state of church-induced emotion, for long enough

Can they?

And besides

Would they even be interested to care enough to bother

Would they?

I question they ever would

They seem to constantly remain on the faith induced “high” 24/7 , like as if faith is also been acting like a drug-high

Faith, even false faith, can act as a form of drug

Cant it?

Are Brethren not “also being carried away” on the back of their own style of faith-induced-drug-high as well too

Are they?

I also have big doubt that the Brethren will ever care to stop and consider it, themselves as well either

Will they?

I really doubt they ever will care to bother

High chance they wont bother

That faith-induced-drug-high , is far to “pleasing” a feeling, to ever dare to let go of

Isn’t it?

So soothing. So soothing to be able to remain oblivious to reality

 

 

 

 

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